Got a producer!

Mattastic · Trackday Trickster Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Karma :

Sometimes the police are wankers! On my way home last night I came to a section of dual carriage way where I usually wind it on a bit up to the dizzy speeds of 55-60mph when I noticed a biker in the traffic put his hand out. This made me look round and I saw a traffic cop further in the road so I slowed down to 40mph, the limit on this road, and then pulled into the inside lane a little later on.

Around three miles later I noticed an RS125 caning it, I could tell by the noise it was making, so I gave him the hand signal for "slow down" to save his arse. No sooner had I done this the fuzz put his blue lights on and pulled me over. After numerous questions about "Is this your bike", "How long have uou been riding" he lectured me about not warning people of police in the proximity and to keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, especially as being a learner.

The hands on handlebars I can kind of agree with but not warning fellow bikers so they can pull them Middle Finger

He was a right swug twat who was looking over the bike for the slightest fault but it was watertight.
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Marc_Buck · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 31 May 2004 Karma :

Pedantic/Pathetic/Childish.

andrew · Mister Road Rage Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Totally agree with you mate, although you're not meant to warn other riders I would have done the same thing, maybe checking your mirrors a bit more might have helped. Wink

Glad he couldn't do you for anything. Thumbs Up

rsooty · Spanner Monkey Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Karma :

Unlucky mate. Next time just shake your head and hope he understands. Either that or get one of those LED message boards attatched to the bike with the words 'Police ahead, bikers slow down' scrolling accross. Razz

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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Hand on handlebars at all times. Errr, no. Eh?

I think the police riding manual (Motorcycle Roadcraft: The Police Rider's Handbook) suggests a handsignal can alert other road users, especially on roundabouts. I'm sure anyone who's done Advanced Rider Training could confirm this but as a sweeping statement it's untrue.

tgabber · Crazy Courier Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

You could just have said that you were telling the other bike to slow down because you thought he was going too fast for the road conditions and hadn't realised that there was a police trap Police

there as well...

Honestly officer... Liar

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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

Should have told him that as you obviously hadn't seen him, you weren't warning the other bike he was there. In fact you were so outraged at the speed the other bike was travelling, you were merely telling him he was an idiot and should slow down. "I mean speed limits are there to save lives officer". Wink

Edit: Damn you tgabber you beat me to it!

Josh · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

Lucky your bike is all above board, not much you can do but take your docs to them and be done with it :<
Today on the way to work I saw some "Census" signs or something, then a lay by full of cars being quizzed by what seemed to be policemen, dunno what it was about, gave me a shock though.
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primalcarl · Crazy Courier Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Karma :

The council have been doing a census, did one in Exeter. Not sure if it's compulsory but I can't imagine that many people stopping for a survey
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carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

Yeah they do that all the time - as far as I know it is cumpulsory. You have to stop anyway, as you are signalled to do so by a police officer. It's not the policemen doing the quizzing, it's annoying questionnaire people. The police are only there to pull the traffic over.

There are usually reports all over local radio stations telling you the areas they are, so you can avoid them.

However, if you had something majorly wrong with your bike I'm sure the police would take that oppurtunity to bollock you for it.
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Josh · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 May 2004 Karma :

It was just opposite the BP garage between the Exminster bypass/matford roundabout.
I was just worried they were going to make me later for work if they stopped me, that or check my bike over and give me a producer.
I need to find/get a replacement insurance cert, so I was like "shit, what do they want :<"
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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

As Carvell said, the police are only there to make sure you stop. Can you imagine rush hour traffic pulling over to have a chat with the nice council workers otherwise?

They have done a few around here in the past but I've never seen them pull a bike over for a chat. Suppose it's a good thing and a bad thing in a way, I couldn't be asked to stop, but we are road users too so we should have an opinion. Rolling Eyes

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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

"But....but..... I got the most terrible cramp in my arm officer" and promptly burst into tears Thumbs Up

Police will pull you over if they feel like it... I got pulled over because they thought I was the bike-owner's little brother taking it for a spin. They were rather surprised when I took my helmet off Laughing

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Scratchy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

Of course he was looking over your bike to make sure it was legal, that's what he's paid to do you chopper!
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WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 20 Mar 2002 Karma :

some police just like bullying you, and especially if you saved this rs125 rider from gettin pulled over, then the copper may well be in a bad mood

be polite, but dont be pushed around by them

both hands the bars indeed, twat Rolling Eyes

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So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976

Iain · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I dont really see the problem here. He could easily have done you with obstructing police justice. You were stupid enough to tell someone to slow down for the police INFRONT of the police.

Dont get me wrong, some bikers are pulled over just because they're on a bike but dont whine when you get pulled over for doing something blatently illegal.
Far too many people jump on the bandwagon of saying that police are scum, they hassle everyone for no reason, blah blah, etc etc.

map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

I'm now confused. Thinking

When did warning other drivers become an offence. I'm told in the older days the AA patrolmen used to do it. Now even councils put details of where they're having mobile traps on a web site (well Humberside do, click here to check). So is this not warning drivers? Are they then not breaking the same law?

carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

As do Herts police/council.

https://www.hertsdirect.org/actweb/safetycameras/
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Scratchy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

What if you saw someone about to put a brick through a car window in order to nick a laptop inside and then saw a police car coming around the corner? Would you warn the theiving scum that the police were coming? I don't think so.
The only difference here is that you beleive that speeding is acceptable and theft is not (as do most people).
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mazza · Nova Slayer Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Karma :

No, no, no Scratchy. Not really in the same ball park, is it. But you do have a point.

The reality is that you're done for speeding, even if it's marginally over sometimes. Because it's intended, primarily for revenue generation over the safety angle. If the police were more lenient and excercised some discretion. Particularly when it's a technical infringement, then I'd give this some credibility.

I've been done for speed 4 times since 1984, sometimes for way over, sometimes for just over. Reasoning with them even when it's just over, you realise, is futile when they intend to book you from the outset.

A friend of mine was booked once and when his plea's for leniency were being emphatically declined he said... "Well get on with it then and book me and stop wasting my fucking time" Right on, go down fighting! Thumbs Up

Scratchy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

I can't argue whether or not speeding is a revenue earner as I don't know whether that is really the purpose or not ( although I agree the evidence certainly makes it seem so). I can guarantee though, the police officer reporting you won't be thinking how much money he is going to get from you.
He is measured on his performance however and the number of tickets issued will be one area that will be monitored to make sure he is doing what he is being paid for.

I only compared speeding to theft to illustrate a point. They are, of course, very different offences.
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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :