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Aprilia RS 125cc
22%
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Honda NSR 125cc
63%
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Cagiva Mito 125cc
13%
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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 05:22 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Tough decsions ahead... Reply with quote

Okay, so I've got more an more knowledge, enough to get me through my theory (I have taken several mocks and past with like 31/35, 32/35 etc), been learning what I can ride and when, when to use L-plates and where to get good gear. Now, one last thing missing... A BIKE! I have got my eye on one of three bikes, it's going to be either:

A) Aprilia RS 125cc

Loads I can find, low millage (usually 5,000, no more than 10,000ish), and under £1,500.

B) Honda NSR 125cc

Not to many that I have seen, but the odd one is there, between 5,000 and 15,000 mileage, and from £1,000 - £1,800

C) Cagiva Mito 125cc

Only seen one or two of these bikes for sale, but they look the dogs. They also look like Ducati 916's a bit. Low mileage and roughly £1600 - £2250

Price isn't really an issue, but I want one of those three which is going to be reliable, good acceleration, and a nice top speed (70 would be fine as long it didn't have to struggle). So what would a nice balance of them be? Also, if you could be so kind to list pro's and con's.

Thanks, Darryl
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are all 125`s and all do the same so get the cheapest one.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

agree with Kev
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or if money's not an issue, get the one you like the look of best. They really do all do exactly the same thing.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR will wint he vote, NSR will win every vote. when of the same age and treated the same all are just as fast and reliable. its purely a matter of wallet and looks.
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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR it is then. Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

OR do your bike test and buy a proper bike, rather then what 17yr olds cane round on L plates anyway.

I followed the same train of thought as you at first, but came to realise they may very well explode on a regular basis, they get nicked shitloads, two strokes are ALWAYS dirty (they dont seem to burn the oil right so it pisses out the exhaust), they make a noise like a piss in a tin can etc etc.

And true they generate lots of power, but only for a 125, 33bhp in a 4 stroke is much better acceleration, due to the torque too. And there are several bikes around that are reasonably sporty and 33bhp. Or just "restrict" a nice 400 down.

Ps this used to be an nsr forum so they are a tad biased, i would say Mito personally, as they mod well, very fast (all the same tho), great handling and as long as you dont start it up near a serious biker they will think its a 'real' bike.

Btw checkout https://www.125ccsportsbikes.com/forums/index.php?act=idx
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if money wasn't a problem, what bike would you recommend me getting as my first bike? I want something as said before, fast acceleration, top speed doesn't really matter as long as it doesn't struggle to do 70, and looks the dogs too.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of those 3 the Mito and the RS are faster, with the NSR being a touch slower. However they will all happily exceed your base line 70mph. Honda a very good for supplying spare parts quickly, but I have never really had any problems with Aprilia.

Personally I would probably go for the RS (but then I own one), although I do not think the current ones are good looking at all (while I think the Mito looks brilliant).

bonny_ricardo wrote:
And true they generate lots of power, but only for a 125, 33bhp in a 4 stroke is much better acceleration, due to the torque too.


Power is torque x rpm, so for the same revs if the power is the same then the torque will be the same. Added to which highly tuned 2 strokes tend to produce more peak torque and at lower revs than highly tuned 4 strokes.

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PostPosted: 18:04 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having owned an RS125 (1999) I cant vouch for them as being good bikes. I have also riden a couple of NSR125's.

I have to say I prefer the RS125 seating position and also handling. The RS125 is said to be the best handling 125cc and can compare to the new bigger bikes also. The RS125 has a nice fat back tyre which in my opinion is a big Thumbs Up Whats the point in having a sports rep with narrow bicycle tyres Wink

If I were looking to get a 125cc now, I would buy a pre 1999 RS125 in chesterfield colours or the one in silver. Both are stunning looking rs125's and they are faster than the newer models.

The NSR125 is probably the most reliable, but it is also the lowest tuned.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I like my bike (see avatar) but I don't think any one else does.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They all do the same thing, and the best thing I would suggest to someone in your situation would be to get a test ride on each of them, but make sure it's on one which is in your price range and the same year etc that you're looking at. Also get insurance quotes for all of them (make sure for getting quotes for comparision purposes that they're from the same company)

The Mito is the fastest of the lot, then the RS then then NSR, but there isn't much at all in it, and the more tuned ones (ie the Mito and the RS) will need more frequent work done on them and more rebuilds to the engine. All the other stuff between them is much the same like tyres, chain & sprockets, two stroke oil, brake pads and all the other consumables.

So basically, get a test ride on each one, get insurance quotes, then make your mind up from there Smile. (With the insurance to get it cheapest use Danny's insurance service, he does the ringing around of all insurance places and if he comes back with a cheaper quote than you've found then it only costs you £30!)
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
Well I like my bike (see avatar) but I don't think any one else does.
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I like your bike *there there, dont cry*

As for the 125's Ste's post says it all!
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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think I should just not get a 125, maybe something a little bigger and restrict it?
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would have to do your test to getting anything bigger than a 125.

I owned an RS125 and I loved it, handling was brilliant and I never had any problems with anything apart from the speedo drive going and a few weeks later the speedo cable snapped, only 2 problems I ever had with it! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
only 2 problems I ever had with it! Thumbs Up


And the two warped disks...
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