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 Posted: 01:32 - 12 Aug 2013 Post subject: INFO ON THESE BIKES PLEASE |
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I am new here so please forgive if I am not posting in the correct spot.
I have these two bikes from my grandmas house from after she died, her husband was a mechanic drained the oil and gas ect.. on these and put them away for winter, he died before they ever got rode again. When she died I had these bikes gone thru at a shop and they replaced some gaskets that had dry rotted out and put fresh battery in them to make sure they would start but I just put them right back into storage.
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[Edit] ... I am looking for info on their worth and what I should be asking for them, I will post better pictures when its light outside. I have matching original helmets same exact color with more of a sparle or flake in the paint. both bikes have less than 2000 miles on them and haven't been ridden or anything for quite a long time the last start was when they were gone thru by a local bike shop about 7 ears ago after my grandma died.
for background my mom just sold a tandem Schwinn bike to a local bicycle shop owner ( her bike was stored with these motorcycles) who saw the hondas and wanted to buy them on the spot but I had no idea what to ask for them. He would like to keep them orignal and display them in his shop. |
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The CL100 looks very similar to the CB100 I owned as a teenager, but with off-road pretentions. Somewhat of a rarity over here.
The 125 looks like an early CG125.
They look quite similar but the CL is an over head cam engine whereas the CG is pushrod engine. Also the electrics are quite different, one bike runs lighting and spark direct off the mag whereas the other requires a battery to run.
In that condition both would be rather collectible over here, but no idea on the value I'm afraid. They are nice examples for sure. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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This be the web. It exists in a dimension where geopolitical boundaries have a different meaning... Tevor...
Cutlery Geeza... this forum is British based, most users reside on this wet and windy island, hence topic of discussion usually concerns UK related 'stuff'.
Bikes. You seem to have a mid 1970's Honda CB125J and it's Street-Scrambler stable mate the CL100.
Small displacement machines have never had the following in the US they have had in Europe where tax and licencing regulations have often limited access to larger displacement machines; But didn't stop the American indulgence in excess simply making up the for thier lack of cubes by simply buying them in bulk!
Sold as leisure equipment, rather than as utiliterian means of transport; for incredibly under-inflated prices at the time; a lot of these kind of bikes exist in the US, having seen little use, and having been stored away when a new leisure activity has been discovered, rather than passed on and ridden into teh ground by a succession of ever more impoverished daily riders.
There are a couple of companies here in the UK that buy them up in the States, stick them in containers and ship them over here to feed the quite active 'restorers' market.
As a rough reckoner on value then; if they were containered over here by one of those barn-find specialists?
Well, the CB125S, fully restored as a museum piece, here in the UK, would command a price tag of perhaps £1500, give or take £500. $2000 or so.
The CL? Slightly more interesting, but non UK model, and the less favourable 100cc version, probably not as much.
Your side of the pond? Fact that folk are buying these kind of bikes up to ship here and sell on, for profit? I would take a stab at $500 or so, 'ball-park'....
BUT it's what the buyer will pay and what the seller would accept.
End of the day, no-ones getting any pleasure from them sat in a shed....
They might give many more people some pleasure on display at a dealers as a talking point...
So... what are they worth TO YOU?
They are taking up space. They obviousely have little intrinsic interest to you as a motorcycle; you obviousely have little interest in motorcycles; so why do you even hang on to them?
Why not take whatever dealer offers? Cash in hand is better than junk rotting in shed?
Worried you might get ripped off or not get thier 'true' value?
Did you PAY for them?
So what does it matter?
Some-one who has a lot more interest, and enthusiasm for those little bikes would like to buy them... so why not give them to some-one who obviousely cares?
Worried he'll not display them, sell them on, make a profit?
SO WHAT... they will STILL be going to some-one who has more interest and enthusiasm for them than you do, where they will be more than some old junk in the shed.
One of the many Evils America has promoted around the world... paranoia over $-Price without a thought for anythings real worth!
Put it like this; at the moment; they are about 500lb or scrap metal taking up space in a shed; unseen, un-run, unused.... a waste of space...... another symptom of American conspiciouse consumption that you can afford the luxuary of such space to keep such junk; where in other parts of the world, that space would have to earn its keep, doing something productive, and where such junk would be valued by how much it could do, against how much it cost to do nothing!
If you are really worried to get $-Value.... put them on e-bay, give the dealer the auction number, tell him he can bid on them if he wants to. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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That's some backwards reasoning if ever I saw it. You don't want them to be 'abused and ridden' but you're happy for these pretty little bikes to be stored away out of sight where no-one else will get to enjoy them until you die yourself and lose any control over what happens to the machines. You don't even take the time to clean and polish them so where exactly is this emotional attachment?
Sell the bikes and enjoy the trip you fund with the money as a last gift from your grandparents. If they are looking down on you they will be happier than watching the bikes slowly rot away unused. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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| Cutlery fan wrote: | Im not sure why but it seems as though some of you are annoyed at my good fortune with these bikes |
LMFAO!! Yeah man we're all jealous as fuck of your incredible good fortune in chancing upon some amazing old bikes that aren't worth much in mint condition, and considerably less in a state that may well be mechanically delicate. I'm green at the gills with pure envy.
| Cutlery fan wrote: | I have already inspected the tanks and did not see any rust at all. The tires are still holding air as normal and roll fine with no noticeable flat spot that I can find at all, yes the tires are original and there is no deterioration, cracks or withering to be found. I'll get one of the batteries out of the box I put them in and put it on a trickle charge tomorrow to test the electric but I am more than willing to bet that is all in fine order. while I agree that bearings and seals do wear out that is a given, all things mechanical wear out. since these bikes have not had any wear and tear on them I dont foresee any issues but I will be more thorough in giving them an inspection when its light out. |
Bikes don't like standing for long. Brakes sieze, moisture settles - and evaporates - settles and evaporates, etc. All the time oxidisation is taking place. Carb boots go hard and perish, hoses too. You're not in a sunshine state, to say the least. Now yeah - okay, it might not take *too* much to get these things running. But there'll be a part here, a part there - and pretty soon you'll have put a few hundred $$ into them. By the time you've got them running you'll be lucky to get 500 apiece. Which is what I said to begin with.
Here is what I would do given that you have already garnered some interest from the store guy who - if I get your story - wants them as ornaments in his place. I would do fuck all about the mechanical shit. Leave it. Just get air in the tyres if needed. Then I'd concentrate on getting them looking good. The purpose of these things will be purely aesthetic. And they *should* polish up well. Get them sparkling, then invite the guy back. Show him them in the midday sun when they're all gleaming and bright - and ask him how much he's prepared to offer. This way your outlay is minimal - just polish and elbow-grease - and you're pitching them on the field the guy's playing on. Fuck all that mechanical shit - they'll be shagged and you'll just be wasting money. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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