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 Posted: 12:13 - 28 Aug 2013 Post subject: Lucky break - always check your chain! |
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For the past two weeks the cbr chain has been bouncing around a bit because I hadn't adjust the slackness - I don't have the tools to undo the rear axel, so thought "I'll just take it to Honda next week".
Called up yesterday, brought it in at 9am today, they tightened the chain and when I set off there were horrible crunching noises as some of the rings around the thingy's on the chain had completely come off.
If I'd gone on the Mway today, that chain would've come off and I would've been a gonner. Guys at Blackpool Honda have been awesome, new chain + sprocket kit is costing me £160+, but they'll have it done tomorrow and they gave me this 700cc hybrid in the meantime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSwR8FsIgAAmAJT.jpg
It's actually not bad, twist and go, still faster than plenty of cars and (I have been told) does 109mph.
Moral of the cool story bro: keep your chain tightened properly!! ____________________ Left the forum. |
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I dunno, the part that jumps out at me is that the Honda repair people didn't notice this problem while tightening your chain... Wouldn't it have been fairly obvious? Maybe they're trying to kill you.  ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
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You went to a Honda dealer, paid them to tighten your chain and they din't notice your chain was fkd / missing integral parts and sent you on your way ?  ____________________ You only get one lap of lifes track . . . . so make it a fast one !
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I know lots of people who take their bikes to the dealer to adjust the chain. If you have more money than time, there's no shame in it. It's the shoddy work by the dealer that's shocking. That seriously *could* have killed the op.
I was quite nervous the first time I adjusted the chain myself -- worried about alignment, about figuring out the unfamiliar torque wrench, about whether I was measuring the slack in the correct place, etc. The first time I did it, I went right over to the dealer to have them check my work. For anyone not mechanically inclined, it is a big step. ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
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 Posted: 13:38 - 28 Aug 2013 Post subject: Re: Lucky break - always check your chain! |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | J7mbo wrote: | I don't have the tools to undo the rear axel, so thought "I'll just take it to Honda next week". |
Spanner.
I'll go ahead and assume that some YTS chimp put it up on a stand, adjusted it drum-tight, and it just tore itself to bits when you put weight and torques on it. You'll be lucky if it didn't put your cross beam owt skew on't treadle. |
It is absolutely industrial strength tight, I'm not weak by any means and with the provided spanner I couldn't unlock it for shit. Also, they adjusted the chain for free for me.
The issue is that the swing arm protrudes a little too much so you can only loosen it by pulling UP, with the spanner length-ways towards the rear of the bike. You can't put weight on it forward and that's the main issue.
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Note about the dealer: The mechanic did mention that I needed a new set, I didn't say it properly in the initial post, sound guys. Just didn't mention I'd hear a horrible crunching sound going 5mph in the carpark
Even commented on how I am really pulling the bike over to it's limits looking at the rear tyre (but never get my knee down though...) - and didn't need to lend me the courtesy bike for free, so really helpful all in all
Can anyone recommend a good tool for undoing the rear axel, not just a shitty spanner? ____________________ Left the forum.
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That will be fine.
If you already have a 32 mm 1/2" drive socket then you are laughing. The other side of the axle is 24 mm IIRC but you don't really need to hold it.
BTW, the rear axle nut on that bike should be done to 92 Nm. That is "quite" tight, but you should be able to undo it afterwards without a breaker bar.
EDIT: Hard to judge tightness without a torque wrench but 92 Nm is about the same as applying c.17 kg of "force" to the hand grip of that breaker bar
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I've got 3 or 4 of the Sealey ones in varying lengths.
They are good for the money, haven't had one last longer than a year though, but I put that down to the fact that I use them alot and every one has broken at the pin on a tight car wheel nut where you cant keep the head at exactly 90 degrees. ____________________ Current Bikes:Honda 929RR Fireblade, Honda CD200 Benly (Project), Stomp Z2 140
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This is the torque wrench I use, if interested:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000CSXN9K/
I don't know if it's any good (professional ones cost a lot more), but I've used this one a few times now and the back wheel hasn't fallen off. ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
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Cheers guys, I'll take a look. I'll probably be worried about the alignment of the wheel after sorting it out in the future so will try what the other poster suggested and take it to a garage straight after to have it checked out
Just glad I made the call to get it looked at this morning  ____________________ Left the forum. |
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Have'nt read all posts (too busy just now) but ill never use a honda dealer again. I used them for my first service (to keep warranty). When I done my second service I discovered 3 broken plastics, 5 fairing bolts with chewed up heads (took about an hour to get them off without further damage), 1 broken fairing bracket and a threaded fairing bolt.
Over charging wankers. I could have broke all that and not paid the £45 an hour for the privilege.
Mark ____________________ No matter how fast light travels, darkness was always their first. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 59 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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