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Medicinal_Motocross
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 09 Oct 2013    Post subject: Engine rebuild Reply with quote

I am currently doing a engine rebuild on my kawasaki kmx 125 and have a couple of questions i bought a mitaka 0.5 oversize piston kit to fit after i have got my barrel rebored in the RIK rings there is piston rings and a kind of curved softer ring in with the box and cant figure out what it is? Also where can i find info on painting my barrel i have ordered a can of Simoniz engine enamel matt black is this the stuff i should use? any feedback appreciated

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PostPosted: 09:39 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Engine rebuild Reply with quote

calisi103 wrote:
...where can i find info on painting my barrel...any feedback appreciated

For engine painting have you tried google - I got these search results (clicky link text).

Doing a search for 'painting engine' on this forum gives this thread result, recommends Granville engine paint. Brushed on (see "Fazer Tom" and "mudcow007" posts).

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its a small circular ring it sounds like its a gudgeon pin circlip, should be two of them.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
is the other ring not a keystone ring?
would it not have been better to ask about the engine paint BEFORE you ordered it?
just make sure you thoroughly clean/degrease the block before painting. might want etch primer but suspect its not neccesary.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

:D pics may help??
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
yup, keystone,
cheers,
GAZ
ps : why bother painting cylinder?
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

Yes it would of been wiser to get a second opinion first Laughing the seller claims it to be able withstand 900 degree c in matt black and internet claims 300c guessing this will still be fine? iv started to try and remove the old silver ally paint as it softened with hot water what am i best using ? i started with a bit of wire wool just want it to look half decent once done in the last picture not sure if it can be seen theres a small hole where liner meets barrel does this need welding?. i uploaded a few pics the seller of piston claims its new but as seen in picture top of piston doesnt look it and he says the 3rd ring goes in bottom groove followed by piston ring as may have larger diameter that top ring? thanks for replies guys Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: . Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
hi,
yup, keystone,
cheers,
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ps : why bother painting cylinder?


i just thought it would of looked better black than silver with engine casings being black just me being picky..

any one used a harmonic balance puller on a kmx? im looking to replace seals and mains but dont have the cash for the tusk one unfortunately, i was told using M6 X 150mm will do the trick? if it comes to it a mechanic will have to do it but wanted to save costs
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 10 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a liquid cooled bike so it'll not be seeing over 150 degrees.

I am a particular fan of plastikote BBQ paint in that kind of application.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBQ-Barbecue-Grill-Plastikote-Spray-Paint-400ml-/350885583096?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item51b26918f8

is this the stuff? i was going try locate some pj1 fast black i made a cock up ordered matt black to me seems far to dull.. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: .. Reply with quote

calisi103 wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBQ-Barbecue-Grill-Plastikote-Spray-Paint-400ml-/350885583096?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item51b26918f8

is this the stuff? i was going try locate some pj1 fast black i made a cock up ordered matt black to me seems far to dull.. Rolling Eyes


That's the stuff I use.

I've done several engine casings with it. It's satin black. You need to be carefull for a few days to let it fully cure, it sets quickly but stays soft for a while.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hijack but can that BBQ paint be used on an exhaust ?
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 12 Oct 2013    Post subject: . Reply with quote

right okay il order one looks to have done a good job of your casings will a 400ml can be enough to give how ever many coats my cylinder needs? any ideas of a rough figure id be looking at to get my frame powdercoated?
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a quote for my cg and it was £150 frame and swing arm
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimbob005 wrote:
Sorry to hijack but can that BBQ paint be used on an exhaust ?


No, at least, not for the header, would probably be ok on an end can. You need VHT (Very High Temperature) paint for an exhaust header pipe.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

calisi103 wrote:
will a 400ml can be enough to give how ever many coats my cylinder needs?


Yes.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

Thanks..would it be a wise or silly idea to give the barrel a coat of matt black engine enamel then apply bbq paint? with there not being much warm weather can see if being a bit of a task Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always applied lots of thin coats directly onto the bare metal. I thoroughly degrease the surface to be painted with a solvent and warm it up on top of a radiator before painting.

I did the rocker cover of that CB500 the other day with chrome-effect plastikote radiator paint. Looks like brand new now.
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