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Sprockets and output shafts are usually made form high-carbon steel so it can be heat-treated and drawn to a suitable hardness so the bits don't wear out. Welding either will upset this heat treatment and might well lead to a failiure of the weld, or even the shaft. I have seen probably a handful of welded-on sprockets on various machines and most have either a cracked weld or evidence of re-welding (obviously following a craked weld). It's very likely that they could be welded but using a specific procedure and using pre- or post-weld treatment - I don't know, I'm not a welder - but in my opinion the odds are on that it will crack at the weld sooner or later.
If the 'damage' was just a retaining clip groove or something it would be far better to put the sprocket loose onto the shaft and then put a blob of weld on the shaft to stop it slipping off. If the shaft spline is shot so that the sprocket can spin on the shaft, then welding is about your only option unless you want to strip or replace the engine. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Here is the welded sprocket.
https://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4777/852h.jpg
Shall I sell the bike now and save myself the headache of having no transport?
Or can it be grinded off and a new one welded on when the time comes? |
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give these guys a ring see if they can help they have helped me big time
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| Pete. wrote: | Sprockets and output shafts are usually made form high-carbon steel so it can be heat-treated and drawn to a suitable hardness so the bits don't wear out. Welding either will upset this heat treatment and might well lead to a failiure of the weld, or even the shaft. I have seen probably a handful of welded-on sprockets on various machines and most have either a cracked weld or evidence of re-welding (obviously following a craked weld). It's very likely that they could be welded but using a specific procedure and using pre- or post-weld treatment - I don't know, I'm not a welder - but in my opinion the odds are on that it will crack at the weld sooner or later.
If the 'damage' was just a retaining clip groove or something it would be far better to put the sprocket loose onto the shaft and then put a blob of weld on the shaft to stop it slipping off. If the shaft spline is shot so that the sprocket can spin on the shaft, then welding is about your only option unless you want to strip or replace the engine. |
This .......................
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Whenever anything is welded, things distort, no matter how good the weld/welder.
He has welded a shaft, which has now distorted is some manner. This will very likely now create a moment on the shaft which will kill the bearings on the shaft pretty quickly.
Good luck selling it in that state. The buyer probably wont see the bodge at first, but they will at some point. Depending on how long you've had the bike, it will be a fair bet they could take you to court and get the money back you scammed out of them. ____________________ Current Bikes: ZX7r 97 (Black Beauty), VFR400 NC24 (The banana)
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You can start a new account, Jive, but karma still catches up with you. Wrecking your Daewoo was bad enough, but someone could have had use out of that Varadero.
Sell it, ride your R6. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 255 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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