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Wozza
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 28 Oct 2013    Post subject: Sign this petition to save our green lanes Reply with quote

Please take a minute to sign this petition against the Peak District National Park Authority (PDNPA) enforcing Traffic Regulation Orders on green lanes, potentially setting a precedent for the rest of the country.

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/peak-district-national-park-authority-we-call-on-the-peak-district-national-park-authority-to-stop-imposing-traffic-regulation-orders-on-our-green-lanes?share_id=tumWzKtHwP&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

This is important for the rights of all user groups to enjoy the countryside and green lanes together. The PDNPA are a very questionable organisation, seemingly supportive of walkers having sole rights of these green lanes. Their reasons for closing the lanes do not make sense for example, to protect wildlife such as ground nesting birds, yet dogs are likely to roam and disturb any area of adjacent land, far off the path where motorcycles would not venture.

“Legally you do not have to use a lead on public paths but we ask people to be responsible particularly during the breeding season, and always use a lead if you can’t rely on your dog’s obedience.”

These dog owners are not being banned like motorcyclists. Why not the same approach for us? This is just one example. Why not at least take some measures to reduce or control motorcycle numbers, if they are such a problem, as has been successful on other green lanes. Like seasonal restrictions, or permits.

Please give your support. Even if you never ride green lanes in the Peaks, this could have an effect all over the country.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 30 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are right about the PDNPA being questionable. As a resident of the Peak Park I have had the misfortune to deal with them on a number of matters. It is not a Democratically elected body, residents have never been asked to vote on its members or policies. The paid officers, who pull the strings of the so-called members are dyed in the wool pedants who resent anyone visiting and enjoying the National Park. Which as its name implies, belongs to us all.

They (the PDNPA) make noises about ensuring the park is vibrant and accessible and not "a museum" yet their policies are specifically designed to limit enjoyment and appreciation of a national asset.

I can't understand how such decisions can be made by an unelected minority and imposed as law on the majority.

I hope the petition is successful, the arguments are totally convincing. However I think that although this will be a major loss of a much loved amenity, it is only the latest element of a deliberate strategy to preserve the PDNP in aspic as some sort of rural theme park. You can look but don't touch.....and heaven forbid enjoy it.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 01 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rest my case

A senior national park official has had to apologise after failing to declare a personal interest while making decisions on green lanes

Why isn't this national news? Sick
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 01 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is there such a desire to close them in Derbyshire, there seems to be a remarkably short length of green lanes there, but must be hundreds of miles of footpath.

Here in North Yorks theres a far larger network, and only a few stretches with issues - and they are caused as much as anything by the 4x4s deliberately trying to get through when it's as wet as possible.

Maybe the problem is that more users are funneled onto less lanes?
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 01 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that the PDNPA is an unelected QUANGO.
The don't have to answer to anyone locally!
A bunch of self serving NIMBY's, if ever there was one!
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 09 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local paper is on the case!

https://www.bakewelltoday.co.uk/news/local/petition-to-ban-closure-of-green-lanes-launched-1-6220663

There are actually over 4000 sigs now, more would help!

It appears the QUANGO involved, the Peak District National Park Authority, (PDNPA), are no better than any other bunch of, non elected, authoritarians and have been less than forthcoming with the truth!
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 09 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't green lane, but would like to. Signed.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 09 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Local paper is on the case!

https://www.bakewelltoday.co.uk/news/local/petition-to-ban-closure-of-green-lanes-launched-1-6220663

There are actually over 4000 sigs now, more would help!

It appears the QUANGO involved, the Peak District National Park Authority, (PDNPA), are no better than any other bunch of, non elected, authoritarians and have been less than forthcoming with the truth!


Is that your comment after it, could do with more because once the ramblers and 'friends of' types spot it they'll message each other and blitz it with formulaic letters about how evil and scary distant bike noise was when they were out thinking beautiful and pure thoughts on a quiet hillside.
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Suntan Sid
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 10 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:

Is that your comment after it, could do with more because once the ramblers and 'friends of' types spot it they'll message each other and blitz it with formulaic letters about how evil and scary distant bike noise was when they were out thinking beautiful and pure thoughts on a quiet hillside.


Yes, I left a couple of comments, I've signed up with the TRF forum and left the link there, hopefully they'll weigh in with a few more comments, they left a few with the article Mrs Suntan linked to!

As it stands, there are a couple of FOI requests in and someone has had a meeting with their MP about conflicts of interest and general corruption within the QUANGO, that is the PDNPA!
The PDNPA are really a nasty, nepotistic, vindictive, self serving, unelected, bunch of two faced bastards. Even outwith the TRO issues any dealings with them are farcical, they couldn't get any further up their own arses!
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 18 Nov 2013    Post subject: pdnpa Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:52 - 28 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Signed - In the hope that once i finally figure out where i can actually go green laning, there will still be a green lane to ride down!
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