No Red Master Key

[BikerGirlonGi...]

Been lusting after a black Kawasaki 636 2005/6 model. Found one for £3400 with alleged 8000miles on the clock with a few mods. I was all set to buy until I found out the dealer has only 1 key - and it's not the master key!

Would I be correct to avoid buying this, as isn't the master key important for key cutting, data mapping etc? To replace would cost around £1000 as would need new ecu too?

Please advise!

[SQL]

avoid

[G]

You should be able to get a key made up for considerably less than that I'd have thought.
Maybe not a 'master key', but should be able to get another transponder key made up if you have the existing key.

Haven't looked in to bike keys specifically, but there's places that do the same for car keys and as far as I'm aware the transponders work the same.

[SQL]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/kawasaki-zx6r-636-ninja-b1h-/251366919300?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a86a2cc84

[BikerGirlonGi...]

SQL - Why do you say avoid? Thanks for the link, it looks like a clean and lovely bike, but I'm not a fan of their design, I much prefer the 2005/2006 model.

G - Doesn't the red key access the ecu's date (mileage, mapping, clock etc...)? Wouldn't the value of the bike without this key be much negated? Or would you still proceed with the purchase?

[P.addy]

Having 1 black key would not bother me in the slightest.

[G]

[SQL]

I say avoid because you know if you lose the key it will cost you 1k

[andys675]

get the black one cloned

I'm not sure what the red one does exactly, but it is needed to put new key codes in the system, if you have the one you've got cloned it has the same code and doesn't need the red one to install a new code
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[Rogerborg]

#1 Be aware that if the bike is stolen, your insurer might ask for two keys as a condition of paying out.

#2 Check that it's not stolen / recovered. Wouldn't bother me, but it might bother anyone you want to sell it on to.

#3 Tell the seller that it's a big deal to get a spare. If they claim that it's not, then invite them to produce one if they want your money.
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[Fizzer Thou]

Phone or email Kawasaki UK and ask them about the red key

https://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Info/Details/340D76D3662
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[BikerGirlonGi...]

Thank you for the helpful feedback.

I got the dealer to buy a spare from Kawasaki and thrown it in the deal, with a £300 reduced asking price. Paid deposit.

Happy riding soon!

(Damn I've missed riding)

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[Rogerborg]

Either way, good job by all concerned and happy days ahead. Don't snow don't snow dont...
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GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[evoboy]

For Honda's HISS system, you dont need a 'master' key, just a coded key to get into the reprogramming system.

Somthing like, remove the plug for the crank position sensor and bridge the wires to the loom. It puts it into key coding mode. ( cant remember 100% )
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[Ammoman]

Why worry about it? Just get another cut even if it needs programming. Got one cut and programmed for my Busa for £45.
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[Slacker24seve...]

Surely a dealer has the facilities to clone a master key?
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[j.silvs]

I am able to get so called master keys cut for £50. Even from the spares

Dagenham market mate