Yamaha R25 unveiled.

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Thoughts on this concept 250cc bike from yamaha? I quite like the looks, shame it's a 250.

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/yamaha-r25-revealed-at-last/24033.html

https://www.indiancarsbikes.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Yamaha-R25-Concept.jpg
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[Rob W]

That looks shit.
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I always thought 250c bikes were popular in the Japan home market.

Horses for courses.
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"Sport" .

[P.]

Tyres... overkill.

Brakes, double overkill.

It's like they saw Honda and Kawasakis attempts at something slow and thought, yeah, mash them up.

[Dave70]

Over TT I saw a yellow YZF R250 a few times over here.

Unfortunately, I never got chance to speak to the rider, so I wasn't sure of it was something Yamaha were trying out or some import. Although it was most likely the latter.

I don't mind the look of that 250 in the OP's post. Shame it is only a 250 though.

[deadwolf]

That slogan on the fairing's a bit of a boast as well. 'Semakin di depan' - 'always in the lead' in Malay.

If it's small and light enough it'd be decent in SE Asia. Plus the success of the Ninja 250 should be proof enough that displacement ain't everything.

A bit posey with the looks though, with small displacement bikes I'd still rather go for something naked, like a Duke 390.
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Can the suspension handle the grip offered by the tyres is the question?
Front brake looks about right - I hope it's up to usual Yamaha standards.

There is no need for USD forks of course, but these days generally RWU forks are used on the 'budget' end.

Steel chassis is probably a bit lardy.

[edit]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yamaha+R25
Everyone else calls it a 'concept'. Considering the missing headlight, seems likely. Reality may be a less.

[Rogerborg]

I'll stick my neck out and guess it's another 25-30bhp eco-commuter wrapped in silly plastics and given a ridiculous riding position.

Sure, it'll sell for a couple of bowls of rice in Asia, but in Europe? Where we live...

17 and 18 year olds riding their YZF R125s will put posters of it on their bedroom walls and do THOSE THINGS THAT BABY JESUS CAN SEE THEM DOING late at night, but won't be able to get one.

Then they'll hit 19, do their training and test on a CB500 or NC700, and feel a bit embarrassed about spunking their pants over a 250 that will cost as much as a CBR500R.

A few geezers with Tef-legs might buy one, do their backs in trying to reach the bars, and flog them on almost unused.

It would have been a fine bike for Europe in 2008. In 2014, it's the answer to nobody's problem.
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[woo]

iliumnate the mind will be the first to buy this as he will ditch the sv for it
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[stevo as b4]

So does it look shit because it's only a 250cc?

I've been saying for a long time that Yamaha has been missing a real trick by not fitting the 30bhp WR250X engine into the YZF125R chassis.

Of course that was when the 33bhp rule was alive, but even now it would with the right suspension and brake mods make for a satisfying way to use 30bhp to it's max, and be a bit like a four stroke equivalent to an Aprilia RS125.

[Dave70]

[Rogerborg]

IMO, a 400 (396/ 398)cc engine and close to 35kW / 46bhp is going to be the golden size, so that it's a suitable bike for A2 tests and doesn't look like too big of a step down for A2 licensees. I have no idea why KTM didn't bore another 22cc into the Duke "390" and make it an A2 test bike.

And not just something like the "Ninja 400", which is a full size and weight ER6-f sleeved down to 400cc either.
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[stevo as b4]

Roger, do you see uk biking future in the sellability of new machine's to be just 125cc and say 350-400cc based 46bhp circa machinery?

It looks like it could be another boring decade TBH!

The sleeved down ER6F engine would not be so bad if it were rehoused into a smaller lighter specific frame.

The Route Honda took is a poor effort design wise, but we are told we're still in recession and time of economic crisis, so manufactures will not spunk out on fancy because they can machines, so can we blame them for having a half assed attitude to new machine design/development. The trend these days is in platform sharing, and manufacturer collaborations so, bike design will go the same way.

Added to that buyer's of new bikes these days get as excited by mpg and things like ABS and trick digital displays, as they do about styling and much more than they do about performance. If a bike has USB, Bluetooth, electrical plug in accessory sockets and sat nav, hazard warning lights etc etc it's a cool bike seemingly.

The Japanese are no longer interested in the 250cc/400cc market either, so despite some people's moans, we will never ever see a new mini 400cc Fireblade etc again.

[m3-paul]

I kind of like the looks, maybe a different front end with upside downs and a twin disc setup and then more importantly, my spare tzr250 engine bolted in with a nice set of Gibson custom spannies

I would happily thrash it around then
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[pepperami]

Haters really hate .

It`s a 250? what`s the problem with that? ...... it suits some people?
If and it`s a big if , Yamaha roll it out at a cheap enough price and it gets a few people into bikes OR keeps a few people biking , then surely it`s not such a bad thing?
It`s not a bad looker and that`s what some people want, why is that such a crime?
It looks better than the YRB 250 imho

It looks like a step up from a yz 125? and what`s so terrible about that?
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[Jim Mc]

If it was a 400 I think it'd have the same appeal as the older Honda CBR/RVF400s

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[mivster]

Perfect posing bike for people who want a small bulletproof lump to commute or bob about local.
The ninja 250 hyosung gtr250 & cbr250 sold very well and still so does so yamaha may aswell get a slice of the pie while people are buyin em.
Although slightly underpowered but not completely turd they will keep going and are more economical and less hassle compared to 2t 250s which are becoming rare so are the parts to find.
I know the fun factor isnt there but sadly 2ts arent being made much nowadays above 125 for the road stupid emissions rules n all that crap.
but look at the new 250s range they do look quite good and I reckon most of us if not all of us would have one. Cheap to run, insure, maintain and they do handle and ride very well ive ridden 2 mentioned above.
although ive not ridden any bikes on the road above 600cc so cant compare them to a bigger bike cant knock em unless you try em so to speak
id have one
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