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PostPosted: 15:52 - 19 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you want it for.
I have a small Draper for the small stuff (eg brake mountings).
I have a larger one (from Argos iirc) for larger stuff (eg wheel nuts).
Both do the job they were made to do.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 19 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Best budget torque wrench Reply with quote

Spanner wrote:
...one which goes up to 300nm, but I may not need to go that tight....
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General reassembley work, maintenance on my bike and car.

I found it's generally not about the maximum values but the minimum settings for the small stuff. That's why I ended up with two to cover the whole range.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 19 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel I can't say 'The torque wrench made me do it' I should have know better. But 100% if I hadn't of used it I wouldn't have sheared that bolt. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanner wrote:
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Dont bother.

Unless you find yourself removing cylinder heads & conrods it's not worth it at all. Just tighten the bolts up by hand...this need to use a torque wrench for everything is nonsence - unless you get it recalibrated & store it correctly then it's not even going to be accurate anyway Rolling Eyes

See thread on clutch rebuild for example of torque wrench causing a bolt to snap that otherwise wouldn't have. Did clutch rebuild, diddnt use torque wrench, no kittens were killed, 10,000 miles later it's still going strong.

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...Now the little bit of fail, my draper torque wrench appears to be fucked, I set to to 10nm to do the bolts up and the second I thought this seems a bit tight the fecking head of one of the bolts sheered off. Luckily removing the bolt wasn't too much trouble.

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I replaced it temporarily with another bolt and washer but I have a new one on order. I also marked the bolts as as I had no torque wrench I had to guess, I'll have it open to replace the bolt in a few days so I can check them. When you tighten everything up do them all up part way and tighten them by choosing one then pick the opposite one and do another and the opposite etc.


Well, things which require calibration in business, don't often go out of calibration, so I wouldn't say it's useless.

You'll most likely find, that there was a problem with the bolt, rather than the torque wrench. Sure, you may not have broken the bolt if you weren't giving it the torque, but you may have been left with an inferior bolt. There's a reason manufactures specify torque and without it, how can you be sure?


Calibration I can understand, however an 18 month old torque wrench that has been used maybe 3-4 times should never be so un calibrated it snaps a bolt at 10nm.

It wasn't the bolt as I put a completely unrelated bolt in the vice set it to 10nm again and managed to snap it before the torque wrench clicked.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two, one 1/4", one 3/8". The upper range of the smaller one overlaps with the lower range of the bigger one. That means I can check if they're in the same ballpark with one another to WRT calibration.

Ideally I'd have a third wrench so I'd know which one is off if they were different. I'm also presuming that any calibration affects each end of the range at different rates, which ought to be a reasonable assumption from Hooke's law.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:33 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So overkill for the home mechanic then. What is the rule of thumb for tightening without one. I always use, tighten and then another quarter turn.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdzr wrote:
What is the rule of thumb for tightening without one.


£35/helicoil kit
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 20 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:


£35/helicoil kit


Lol, thanks.
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairly amateur with the technical and mechanical stuff to pre-warn.

I've got two torque wrenches as i don't trust myself without them currently, which IIRC are,

1] 8nm-80nm from machinemart for 20 quid or so.

2] 80nm-210nm from argos again around 20 quid or so.

I've read the least accurate torques are at the top and bottom end of the range - may be total bollucks, feel free to confirm anyone Laughing , but on that basis i figured most of my bike torques were 15-50ish that i do for general basic maintainence - anything below that i just nip up with allen keys or whatever.

Realistically, the 80-210nm argos wrench i've never used on the bike - its come in handy for the car doing wheels and the like, but unless i get to a stage i feel comfortable disassembling the bike to a greater extent its more a reassurance having it in the box than something thats actually useful to me.

Also i wouldn't buy based on them being 1/2, 1/4 etc, if you get an adaptor kit you can interlink sockets/wrenches regardless. Can get them for peanuts on ebay, just make sure the extended length of the socket area doesn't make you start tightening at a slight angle Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:41 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can roughly test a torque wrench with a spring balance that reads in lbs, one of the cheap luggage scale ones is fine. Set the wrench to 10nm and put it on a bolt for testing, preferably one that is much higher than 10nm. Put the hook of the balance on the wrench handle about a foot from the bolt. Pull on the balance. One Nm is 0.737ft lb so the scales should read around 7.3lbs when the wrench clicks. Given a tolerance of 10% anywhere between 6.5 and 8 is fine.

BTW. I've tested a couple of the ones that sell in Aldi and Lidl. They are pretty good.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdzr wrote:
So overkill for the home mechanic then. What is the rule of thumb for tightening without one. I always use, tighten and then another quarter turn.



Or
Use a Torque-Turn proceedure.

Tighten until the bolt snaps.
Then back it off 30 degrees.

Laughing

As said, very few jobs require a torque wrench.
In a factory they use automated torque tools mainly to reduce assembly times.

Where would I use a torque wrench on a bike or a car?

Cylinder head, Big Ends, Mains and not much more.

I can comfortably walk past a torque wrench a tool shop.

There are faaaaaaar more 'useful' tools you can spunk £40-100 on. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

As said, very few jobs require a torque wrench.


I would totally agree if there were not so many mechanically dysfunctional bikers out there. Yesterday I could only manage to undo 2 of 6 screws that were holding the lid on an airbox. Someone in the past had decided they needed threadlocking and tightening to about 300Nm. Rolling Eyes

Engine rebuilds are about the only time I can think of that I would be using a torque wrench.
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd definitely want one for bolting on a new exhaust, especially if you don't have much spanner experience. It's something that a lot of us take for granted, but it does take time to learn at what point a bolt might be about to give or seems too tight.

On bolts of 8mm and above, the general rule is to tighten it, then haul on it until you produce two grunts and a groan.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There good for novices and for doing very critical jobs like cylinder heads I must say it is a busy week if I use mine but my bolt tightening head has had 5years of profession use =so is fairly well calibrated
Re calibration of cheap torque wrenches is uneconomic unless you find a friendly big workshop with a test set up I just replace if it think it iffy
I only use a 3/8 drive one most of the time if it need more than that will do I have a real big 1/2 job but hardly ever use it a bar and common sense is fine

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PostPosted: 09:42 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
...then haul on it until you produce two grunts and a groan.

That works on other things too Wink
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
dydey90 wrote:
...then haul on it until you produce two grunts and a groan.

That works on other things too Wink


There was no call for that Sir. Tut Tut

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PostPosted: 09:56 - 21 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only place I use a torque wrench is on the main wheel nut, after adjusting my chain. I tighten with a decent (draper) socket wrench until I get the aforementioned two grunts and a groan, and then use this one: clicky and will get another bit of tightening (mostly because of the long handle, probably) before the click.

It's cheap (less than £45), but the wheel hasn't come off yet and I've used it several times.
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