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Marcg868
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Honda CBF 125's Reply with quote

Not for me as I have a bike but for a work colleagud. He is after a good commuter for work. Isn't fussed about moving up from a 125. Just purely wants a brand new 125 that's good on fuel for a 30 mile there and back commute. Mostly on 40/30 mph roads.

I've never seen a CBF 125 but have had a cbr which I imagine it's similar to? Also heard about iffy build quality? But people said that about Hyosungs and mine was fine with plenty of ACF50 and maintenance.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

YBR, few years old. Do NOT buy a CBF.

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PostPosted: 20:11 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:21 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a CBF125 through last year. I bought a pre-reg 2011 and had it for about eight months, 8,000 miles-ish. Not a spot of rust, but I did have the kangaroo-ing issue once (google it, it was fuel pump issue or somesuch) when the weather got hot (that one hot day in the summer of 2012).

I really loved mine. It got well over 100mpg and was very reliable. Never the slightest issue with starting in the coldest mornings. However, I would hesitate to recommend a new one only because others have had issues with corrosion and burning oil. I'm guessing it's a bit of a lottery (good day/bad day at the India factory). Buy a used one in good nick. Let someone else take their chances with a new one.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ybr is the best tool for that job, though if he's purely after a practical commuting machine then why not consider a scooter, better weather protection and a bit of useful luggage capacity.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has seen one for £1895 a 2012 black one with 1200 miles on. I quite like the look of it also if I was going back to a 125. What's the difference between them and the ybr's?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Content of rust.

You can get a 2011/12 YBR if you look around for <£1500
Far less if you step back to 10 and under models, whats the obsession with a newer one... they are all the same Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Ybr is the best tool for that job, though if he's purely after a practical commuting machine then why not consider a scooter, better weather protection and a bit of useful luggage capacity.


Scooters are death traps in the wet (at least the smaller 125 ones) and cost a lot to run compared to a bike. Having never ridden a bigger scooter I can't comment on those. Weather protection and storage are definitely a plus of scooters for sure. Maybe the new EFI 125 scooters have better fuel consumption but the carb versions use a lot more fuel compared to a bike; when I had a 4t scooter it use to do about 70-75 miles to the gallon and have a top speed of around 50-55 Sad .

I would say YBR all the way, £1000 will get you a decent commuter and top speed of 65 or 70 with the wind.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want a newer one for reliability and warranty. Some people just don't want to buy privately and want to buy from a dealer.

It's up to him. So looking at 2012/13 CBF or the ybr. Is the ybr fuel injected?
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:
Want a newer one for reliability and warranty. Some people just don't want to buy privately and want to buy from a dealer.

It's up to him. So looking at 2012/13 CBF or the ybr. Is the ybr fuel injected?


Yes they are all injected, expect the warranty from dealers to be worthless
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye true. But it's not me choosing its my mate. If he wants to buy from a dealer that's his choice. Just wondering which is the better bike for his commute.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Content of rust.

You can get a 2011/12 YBR if you look around for <£1500
Far less if you step back to 10 and under models, whats the obsession with a newer one... they are all the same Laughing

Anything past 2007 is FI
Ftw frankly as it was reliable as fuck
AS LONG AS YOUR BATTERY WAS IN GOOD NICK.

Motobatt ftw Thumbs Up

Also had a fuel gauge, felt bigger than a cg and was faster
CG is the slow work horse, amazing on fuel though, also sounds nicer
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 22 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just repost my comment from the other CBF thread:

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As I understand it, the carbed CG pushrod lump was done over by Euro 3 emissions. Honda turned a problem into an opportunity and got their Indian subsidiary to design a new bike from the ground up.

I think they understand the market perfectly. The CBF125 is neck and neck with the YBR as the UK's best selling bike, despite a laundry list of common issues: Friday finish, corrosion, fuel pump/tank lining, running dry and seizing. That Honda reputation goes a long way: MCN still have the CBF rated at 4 stars, again despite admitting that their test bike rusted up a treat in short order. Owners do seem to make excuses for them that they wouldn't for a Chinese branded bike at under half the price.


They look great and no mistake. They should be great. I'm sure many owners get a good 'un that never gets the tin worm, and are perfectly happy with them.

But really, they're a very cheap Indian bike, designed for the Indian climate and Indian market. We get the exact same bikes, with a basic fuel injection system bolted on.

The same can be said of the YBR, with s/Indian/Chinese/, but the YBR seems to have fewer common issues, just a bit of chrome bubbling.

I'd seriously consider the "AJS Eco", which makes a credible claim of being the domestic carbed YBR, for just over half the price of the injected export bike.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been riding a 12 plate CBF for about 3 months doing a 60 mile round trip commute mainly at around 50mph, and have consistently got between 138-150 mpg out of it (riding like a pussy). As someone who hasn't had any other bike i respect the amount of CBF hate on this site for it, but as a miser i can't really argue with the fuel economy.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant complain with my cbf, shes a great wee bike. I get 90-110 mpg depending where Im going to.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So from what I see their a bit hit and miss build quality wise. Same as Hyosung.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBF isn't that bad, had one since december 2012 and clocked up 8,500 miles so far with not one issue and great mpg as well.

It does have its negatives though, rusts a lot (you'll need some ACF50) and you have to keep an eye on the oil level as it needs topping up every couple of hundred miles (in my case every 250miles or so, it needs a top up of oil) apart from those two things its alright.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 25 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not hate, it's (for me) just disappointment that it's not an unqualified great bike. A Honda shouldn't need to be dosed with ACF-50 or be given regular gulps of oil.

What really gets me is that they've had several years to sort out these well known issues but there are still wrong 'uns leaving dealers. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 25 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I'll just repost my comment from the other CBF thread:

Rogerborg wrote:
As I understand it, the carbed CG pushrod lump was done over by Euro 3 emissions. Honda turned a problem into an opportunity and got their Indian subsidiary to design a new bike from the ground up.

I think they understand the market perfectly. The CBF125 is neck and neck with the YBR as the UK's best selling bike, despite a laundry list of common issues: Friday finish, corrosion, fuel pump/tank lining, running dry and seizing. That Honda reputation goes a long way: MCN still have the CBF rated at 4 stars, again despite admitting that their test bike rusted up a treat in short order. Owners do seem to make excuses for them that they wouldn't for a Chinese branded bike at under half the price.


They look great and no mistake. They should be great. I'm sure many owners get a good 'un that never gets the tin worm, and are perfectly happy with them.

But really, they're a very cheap Indian bike, designed for the Indian climate and Indian market. We get the exact same bikes, with a basic fuel injection system bolted on.

The same can be said of the YBR, with s/Indian/Chinese/, but the YBR seems to have fewer common issues, just a bit of chrome bubbling.

I'd seriously consider the "AJS Eco", which makes a credible claim of being the domestic carbed YBR, for just over half the price of the injected export bike.

Quite nice that Eco, will look around for some reviews but they seem quite new and over £1k at the mo
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 25 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there.

Here is my CBF - spotted the rust on it 3 days after getting it.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=281543&highlight=
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 26 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do see a lot of 2010 onwards models with heavy rust around the gear shifter assembly, and exhaust, swingarm etc. Also the later ones often had issues with the fuel pump (or injector?). I personally have had no problems rust-wise (use ACF-50 and a de-humidified garage) and I bought a new fuel pump in case but never had to chnage it, mine is an 09 model though.
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