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 Posted: 22:57 - 27 Nov 2013 Post subject: Coming out to bcf |
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I think I've caught the ghey....
Seriously looking at buying this
Tempted by the low insurance and high mpg.
You'll nod back at me won't you? Won't you?
Seriously tho, any points to look for when inspecting these strange scootery machines? Never bought a scoot before. |
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I think Rogerborg has got himself similar to one of these, a Burgman 400. ____________________ Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1 |
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I just buy something if it catches my eye.
Whats your budget? I'd have the Piaggio, I'd become a scootay fag... but hey  |
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After riding a scooter almost every day for the past 2.5 years, I would say a proper bike would be a better bet, particularly as "Winter is Coming."
You mentioned the low MPG offered by the scooter. Yes this is true, a 125 scooter will definitely give you good fuel economy; I get at least 90mpg from mine and thats going "flat out" a lot of the time (Honda claim 130mpg for mine which I think would be achievable if I were riding between 30-40mph everywhere.
Although; however good the fuel consumption is, it will not be any better than a geared 4t 125 - in some cases it may even be slightly worse due to the inability to switch to a higher gear to keep RPM down.
Scooters are also covered in plastic meaning either hefty repair bill when you slide it down the road, or very noticeable crash damage (I chose the second option). Although, obviously the high plastic content does mean you are very well protected from the elements.
However, the main reason for my recommendation for a "proper bike" is stability. On a conventional bike, you straddle it and are sat somewhere between the wheels; a reasonably stable position. On a scooter, you are sat on top of the bike and directly above the rear wheel, which in my experience, leads to much less control over the bike should you loose traction. There have been times when I have come off my scooter at a very low speed due to bad rode conditions/ice and I personally think that, had I been riding a proper bike I would have had a much higher chance of saving it.
So, that is what I believe to be an informed opinion on scooter riding. Saying all that though, I do still like my scooter, it's brilliantly easy to ride, particularly when filtering - no gears to faff around with (although it's not the narrowest of bikes, and the one your looking at looks even less so). Maybe the lack of gears will be good for you just to get used to riding again as you have been away from it for 3 years.
Anyway, ultimately the choice is yours obviously. ____________________ Present: [Kawasaki ZX7r][Suzuki DRZ 400s]
Past: [Honda PCX 125] [Yamaha RXS 100] [Honda CB 500] [Triumph Speed Four] [Honda ST1100 Pan European - Po-Po Edition] |
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On about rinsing your sister's zizzer again. Might not be the ghey...
| Doovy wrote: | I think Rogerborg has got himself similar to one of these, a Burgman 400. |
And he's added a Termoscud cosy blanket, as well as muffs and heated grips.
https://www.accessorimotostore.com/images/burgman%20042%20[640x480].jpg
Weather protection is indeed great. I'm still in my kevlar jeans, even on damp days.
Handling, as monteme0 notes, is comical. Soooo slow on roundabouts, no confidence. Dull as ditchwater, even with a mighty 30-something bhp. On a 125, you'll be treating the throttle as an on/off switch. There's also a bit of getting used to using brake and throttle together in lieu of a manual clutch's biting point.
Hell to work on, it's taken me hours to figure out how to even get the tupperware off to get at the oily bits. A "simple" rear brake pad change involved taking the exhaust off, which snapped a stud and that was my weekend gone trying to get access to drill it out.
And yet... and yet... so easy to just jump on and go. We've not had a bad autumn yet, but even so it's kept me on two wheels when I've been tempted to take the car a few times.
Too soon to call it yet, but at that price, it's got to be worth trying out just for the experience.
I'll nod, but then I nodded at peds even before I caught the metrosex. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Just looked at insurances and it would actually only be another 20 quid or so to insure my CB500 that sitting in a mates barn compared to the 125s.
Only thing is said CB, while it was mot'd a few years ago is an absolute rat-bike with no value. Any money spent on it, to get it roadworthy is never going to be seen again... Also lacks ignition switch, clocks, proper headlight etc etc
also happens to be geared to top out at 90, with resulting grunt.  |
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That price looks good. If you are worried about stability, have a look around for the SH125. Same fuel economy, but it uses much bigger wheels and you sit more-or-less between them, so it has a similar feel to a motorcycle. Older ones can be had for reasonable money, I think. I had a 2004 for a few months. I paid something like £800 for it, from a dealer.
The disadvantage of the bigger wheels is reduced storage. The under-seat area is tiny.
https://www.motorbikespecs.net/images/Honda/SH_125_1_3_4_5-Fi_01-05/SH_125_1_3_4_5-Fi_01-05_2.jpg ____________________ Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
Previous: '12 NC700S, '11 CBF 125, '04 SH 125. |
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| smegballs wrote: | Just looked at insurances and it would actually only be another 20 quid or so to insure my CB500 that sitting in a mates barn compared to the 125s.
Only thing is said CB, while it was mot'd a few years ago is an absolute rat-bike with no value. Any money spent on it, to get it roadworthy is never going to be seen again... Also lacks ignition switch, clocks, proper headlight etc etc
also happens to be geared to top out at 90, with resulting grunt.  |
I forgot that thing even existed. Does it still sound like hell on earth?
see if DAAAVE can sell you a used sprocket set. ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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12.5k is very low mileage for an 11 year old scooter. I'd wonder if it was laid up somewhere for a while. I do about 10k a year on my scooter. Non-classic scooters are strictly utility vehicles, I'd raise my eyebrows at anything that didn't do at least 2-3k a year.
I find the handling of scooters is better than big bikes at lower speed. They change direction with very little effort, and the low centre of gravity makes them very easy to roll into a turn with bodyweight rather than countersteer for quick reaction. High speed handling is generally dreadful, very wobbly if the wheels are small, and usually wallowing and weaving if hitting bumps while cornering at speed. Neither suspension nor frame stiffness are set up for it. An exception should be the new Honda Integra, since that's got the same frame as the other NC700s.
But I wouldn't want an X9. 170kg is a lot for a 14bhp motor, and it's a chunky bike, more awkward for filtering. I'd prefer to see 130kg for a water-cooled 125. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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.............*backs out of thread quickly trying to avoid showing rear passage to ghey's* ____________________ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone. |
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im allowed to talk scooters  ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
if its spelt wrong its my fat fingers and daft auto correct on my tablet |
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Those X9s are babe magnets, no need to fear the ghey...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 333 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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