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Marcg868
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Fully Comp or tpft Reply with quote

Bike one Suzuki GSR 600 and other bike Honda CBF 125 both worth £2000 each. Been quoted £308 fully comp but a 950 quid excess with mce or £500 comp and £200 excess.

The tpft quote is £250 and £200 excess.

Use the GSR 600 from April to November for weekend blasts and sunny commutes the CBF I have just bought for winter and most likely use it to commute and save the GSR for fun.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Fully Comp or tpft Reply with quote

Fully comp would only be useful if you were in an at-fault accident where another party was claiming.
It may then mean you get a bit of cash back, including recovery fees etc.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

id go fully comp, worse comes to worse the cost of bike would be 2nd priority. just dont crash Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah was thinking as I commute all year round minus snow days that comps the way to go. Just the excess frightened me because £950 is offensive. I can pay more on the premium for a smaller excess. Also breakdown with my insurance or seperate?
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, a perfect example of why the insurance industry needs to be nationalised. Obscene excesses AND being raped on subsequent zero/reduced-NCB premiums? At what point does it add up to fraud? Basically you end up with no payout in the long term, they've had your premiums and they also claw back everything they've paid you out eventually. Mad
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that on a double bike policy ?

I have mines on 2 separates.

Both full comp
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just took out an MCE policy for my fireblade, not my first choice of insurer. Weirdly it was cheaper TPFT with an £1100 excess, bike isn't worth anymore than that, but wait, it comes with a free excess protect. If I claim, they pay my excess, T&C's appear to stack up. Though unlikely I'd claim anyway. SP30 nearly 3 years ago, fault accident in car, 1YR NCB on bike and 5 months full licence because I went for full in June after being restricted since October 2012. Exhaust declared, stored in car park, no security declared. £350.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id go tpft at those prices, recover at best a grand if you went FC perhaps after excesses and/or additional cost vs tpft, and thats only if you are deemed to blame. Have you tryed a multibike quote with bikesure and wickedquotes?
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 29 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah multibike. 5 years ncb and a SP30 from last year 27 year old in Bolton.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, be sure that your estimates of value are realistic. They're not worth what you paid for them, they're worth the lowest price that an insuramonkey can find an equivalent bike going for, and they won't be fussy about mileage or condition.

£2000 is right on the cusp of where it wouldn't be worth claiming with an obscene £950 excess, especially now that you have some NCD to lose. Remember, that excess will apply to theft claims as well as at-fault damage: you'd actually be better off with TPFT and £200 excess if a bike gets nicked.

At £2000, I think I'd be minded to go with that TPFT cover and invest the savings on chains and crash protection.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go tpft as your bikes aren't worth much money so the massive extra on insurance doesn't really work out as any benefit to you
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mic wrote:
id go fully comp, worse comes to worse the cost of bike would be 2nd priority. just dont crash Laughing

Lets say he crashes in both situations.

TPFT he has paid £250 and can continue to use that policy on the same bike, transfer it to another bike or just keep it for the NCB. He'll have to pay out for damages, which in most cases shouldn't be too bad.
With FC he is already £58 down on the cheaper policy. But he's crashed and making a claim. The first £950 is excess, so he's basically only getting a payout if the bike is written off. Insurance policy may be cancelled (not sure how it works on a two bike), if half way through that's £154 out of the payout.
Lets say they offer him £1600.
So he's got maybe £500 back if he crashes, with more to pay out.
If the same excess is for theft, he's a lot worse off now than with TPFT - to the tune of £750.

To me, it doesn't sound worth it. The grand+ that you'll lose out compared to the value of the bike would probably fix most problems.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
mic wrote:
id go fully comp, worse comes to worse the cost of bike would be 2nd priority. just dont crash Laughing

Lets say he crashes in both situations.

TPFT he has paid £250 and can continue to use that policy on the same bike, transfer it to another bike or just keep it for the NCB. He'll have to pay out for damages, which in most cases shouldn't be too bad.
With FC he is already £58 down on the cheaper policy. But he's crashed and making a claim. The first £950 is excess, so he's basically only getting a payout if the bike is written off. Insurance policy may be cancelled (not sure how it works on a two bike), if half way through that's £154 out of the payout.
Lets say they offer him £1600.
So he's got maybe £500 back if he crashes, with more to pay out.
If the same excess is for theft, he's a lot worse off now than with TPFT - to the tune of £750.

To me, it doesn't sound worth it. The grand+ that you'll lose out compared to the value of the bike would probably fix most problems.


Probably the best example of what I'm thinking. Seems a bit cheaper taking seperate policies also. £98 tpft on the CBF and £150 for the Jism!

I highly doubt that i will have a accident big enough to totally wipe out either bike. And if i do crash it will be considerably cheaper than £950 to repair.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only just recently [upon being able to afford it finally] realised as with what a lot of the comments on here have explained how useless FC often is.

The other thing to be honest
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I highly doubt that i will have a accident big enough to totally wipe out either bike.

I mean theres exceptions like the frame being fucked and the remainder of the bike being fairly okay, but realistically considering all the additional cost your average accident is probably cheaper to fix patching up yourself rather than paying all the huge excesses and loss of NCB over a few years prices.

And the other thing to be morbid, if you do have a totally huge accident, presuming you ride as safe as you can and arent at fault etc, the bikes likely to be the last thing to be worried about in that situation, and you're also relatively likely to get a fairly decent compensation payout if someone else fucked up so that will help with replacing the bike anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

f/c is always cheaper than tptf for me, both cars an bikes.........must be an age thing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 30 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
I only just recently [upon being able to afford it finally] realised as with what a lot of the comments on here have explained how useless FC often is.

The other thing to be honest
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I highly doubt that i will have a accident big enough to totally wipe out either bike.

I mean theres exceptions like the frame being fucked and the remainder of the bike being fairly okay, but realistically considering all the additional cost your average accident is probably cheaper to fix patching up yourself rather than paying all the huge excesses and loss of NCB over a few years prices.

And the other thing to be morbid, if you do have a totally huge accident, presuming you ride as safe as you can and arent at fault etc, the bikes likely to be the last thing to be worried about in that situation, and you're also relatively likely to get a fairly decent compensation payout if someone else fucked up so that will help with replacing the bike anyway.


Yeah I have had one accident where I bent the frame. Cost me £500 to have it straightened a lot cheaper than £950
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