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Snorty
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Where to store bike? Shed/garage? Reply with quote

I'm sick of leaving my bikes out in the open, but I have no garage or any sort of storage.

I'm trying to save a bit of money up at the moment. What do you guys use for your bikes? I've seen the metal sheds and I was also looking at maybe getting a garage built but not sure on cost.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy a metal shed. It's better than nothing but really not worth buying one as they gather condensation which drips on your bike and rusts it.

Not sure if plastic ones do the same but there's a recommendation for one above.

I have a concrete garage for my bikes (which isn't the best storage either)

The best place for a bike (apart from being ridden) is in a water-tight, wooden building. The wood soaks up any moisture in the air leaving a dry storage environment
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i lived on the ground floor i'd park my bike in the lounge. luckily i've got a garage so i stick it in there. i have wondered if it would be hoist it up to my lounge but 3 stories is a bit high.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Where to store bike? Shed/garage? Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
I'm sick of leaving my bikes out in the open, but I have no garage or any sort of storage.

I'm trying to save a bit of money up at the moment. What do you guys use for your bikes? I've seen the metal sheds and I was also looking at maybe getting a garage built but not sure on cost.


I built a garage. £6k will get you a precast cement roofed and concrete floored Dez Rez for any bike.
You can even pick up those pre-cast garages on E-ghey/Bum-tree too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compton-sectional-concrete-garage-with-electric-door-and-double-glazing-16x10-/261334361510?pt=UK_BOI_Containers_Pre_Fab_Buildings_ET&hash=item3cd8bde5a6
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got room in my garage for one more Snorty, if you want to get a bike out of the weather Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Where to store bike? Shed/garage? Reply with quote

How much space do you have?

I know of a portacabin that would make a lovely bike workshop etc, just needs a bit of waterproofing on the roof for a VERY reasonable price.

It is a little 'large' however, so probably not suitable Smile.

Me, I'd just make a basic shed presuming space is limited - OCB sheets, paint them up and some beams for the corners to hold it all together.
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PostPosted: 03:28 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I ended up getting one of those plastic Keter sheds.
They're pretty good man, highly impressed with them. They are great at keeping the heat in, regardless of weather outside.

mpd72 wrote:
They are bone dry inside as they have a built in plastic floor and plenty of ventilation at the ridge of the roof.
It's almost like its watertight. Absolutely brilliant!

mpd72 wrote:
I'd buy another if I had room. Smile
Got 2, although I think they are 8x12, I do have three bikes in one of them, with room to swing a cat.
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PostPosted: 05:21 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have ground space a metal-box style shed is probably cheapest and easiest to get set up and install. Can add additional security with bolt or even interior frames to lock the bike up to also.

They do normally gather conendsation, but then a bike left outside in the middle of winter is dripping with moisture on your average night, so its certainly not going to break it nor be any worse off - just don't leave gear in it and the bike should be fine.

You can buy them for a hefty price if you're incredibly lazy or well off
https://www.asgardsss.co.uk/motorcycle-storage

Otherwise fairly straight forward to build using some sheet-metal, brackets and the like.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recently bought a 8x6 double door wooden shed for £300 from b&q, cheapest I could find. Woods not the best quality, but very easy to beef up with extra wood and you can add shelves etc where you want. I've also added those cheap giant polystyrene boards you can get in b&q for £3 inside as insulation. Nice little man cave now. Will add that the plastic windows are aweful! You could easily poke the windows out. But some cheap horticultural glass and a metal shed over sorted that out.

Don't forget to add coach bolts for security!
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a small plastic shed similar to the Apollo one (single door rather than double door) but I paid the grand total of £79. Smile
I bought mine from B&Q as a shop-soiled unit with a couple of small cracks in the door - easily fixed. Keep your eyes open for a secondhand one, they are dead easy to disassemble and reassemble so all you need is a large van to or trailer to transport it.

You will however need to spend a little time leveling the ground unless you have a paved area already: You can't really put the shed directly on grass, you might need to lay down some sacks of hardcore (try Freecycle or local ads if you don't want to pay money for it) and then lay some sand on top of that. Use a plank of wood to check the level and keep adding sand until the depth is equalized. You could get away with putting a plastic shed direct onto sand but I'd lay some cheap paving slabs.
https://www.tigersheds.com/buildabase.asp

The job is a pain in the ass but if you don't want a wobbly shed you've got to get the ground perfectly level. Tip: use silicone sealant on the apex of the shed roof to "glue" the joins together, it'll make the roof more resistant to high winds.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brought a metal shed from argos few years back £99...same one now is close on £500 Shocked .
where I am now, I have 16x8 space down the side of the house that i'm going to Box in with plastic roofing...should make a decent store for the bike..
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
If you have ground space a metal-box style shed is probably cheapest and easiest to get set up and install. Can add additional security with bolt or even interior frames to lock the bike up to also.

They do normally gather conendsation, but then a bike left outside in the middle of winter is dripping with moisture on your average night, so its certainly not going to break it nor be any worse off - just don't leave gear in it and the bike should be fine.

You can buy them for a hefty price if you're incredibly lazy or well off
https://www.asgardsss.co.uk/motorcycle-storage

Otherwise fairly straight forward to build using some sheet-metal, brackets and the like.


Folk stopped leaving their cars in garages as they promote rust due to to condensation. Wooden structure is better as the wood absorbs some moisture. My precast garage is full of ventilation but is still a shit hole for condensation. I'm even considering insulating and gyproc-ing the bastart to ward off the dampness. I Scottoil-365 and ACF50 the fcuk out of everything 'sensitive' I keep in garage too.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1525659_10153580389400332_177843769_n.jpg

Just had this built. £1280 erected.

Room for 6 bikes with space left! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask what size is it and who supplied it...IMO that's a bargain!
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

16ft4 x 9ft.

Supplied by a local company called HK Sinclair in Leeds.

Pretty happy with it!
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan87 wrote:
Can I ask what size is it and who supplied it...IMO that's a bargain!

As an idea; the 32'*10' portacabin went earlier - sold for £74 on ebay.
Bloke got delivery for £300 for a 100 mile round trip - seems he could have got it for less, but then was hideously unprepared and they're going to have a nightmare getting it off at the end I suspect too as it's just a flat bed.

If I needed such a building I'd definitely keep an eye out for similar on ebay (maybe a bit smaller - transport would be cheaper too then) - this one needed some repair work to roof and walls, but very cheap considering you're getting a building which connections for electric and water ready to go, as well as some heaters in etc.

Bonus of course that if you move, you can take it with you!


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PostPosted: 15:43 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an underground garage which is pretty handy, occasionally when the water table is high there is a small puddle in the corner but it's not too much of an issue.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
I have an underground garage which is pretty handy.


This sounds awesome, like a bat cave.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
I have an underground garage which is pretty handy, occasionally when the water table is high there is a small puddle in the corner but it's not too much of an issue.


Pics!


Pics of inside for you snorty as well!
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Built a double garage out of lightweight block, timber deck roof with rubber roof.

Cost me near 20k so hardly a cheap option
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1525659_10153580389400332_177843769_n.jpg

Just had this built. £1280 erected.

Room for 6 bikes with space left! Very Happy


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PostPosted: 19:24 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can stop the condensation problems in the metal sheds by glueing sheets of polystyrene to the roof. I have one (not for the bike, just garden stuff) and just got some of B&Q's cheapest insulation sheets that I stuck to the roof, no condensation problems.

I too have a concrete prefab garage, I'm planning on insulating it when I can afford it, but will use plywood instead of plasterboard to cover it. I sprayed the outside of mine in brick sealant to stop any moisture soaking through. I didn't get a vapour barrier laid in the base when it was cast, but fortunately its all about 6" higher than the surrounding ground so don't seem to have any problems with damp floor, also the floor paint helps with that. That together with the moisture absorbent coating that's on the inside of the roof sheeting seems to stop any condensation. It is well ventilated mind. I seem to recall I paid about £1500 for mine and I'm well pleased with it.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Codemonkey wrote:
You can stop the condensation problems in the metal sheds by glueing sheets of polystyrene to the roof. I have one (not for the bike, just garden stuff) and just got some of B&Q's cheapest insulation sheets that I stuck to the roof, no condensation problems.

I too have a concrete prefab garage, I'm planning on insulating it when I can afford it, but will use plywood instead of plasterboard to cover it. I sprayed the outside of mine in brick sealant to stop any moisture soaking through. I didn't get a vapour barrier laid in the base when it was cast, but fortunately its all about 6" higher than the surrounding ground so don't seem to have any problems with damp floor, also the floor paint helps with that. That together with the moisture absorbent coating that's on the inside of the roof sheeting seems to stop any condensation. It is well ventilated mind. I seem to recall I paid about £1500 for mine and I'm well pleased with it.


It's the air moving in and out the building that carries moisture.
It will condense on anything colder than the air.
Even when insulated from damp permeating through floor, walls and roof you can still get damp.
Leave a house without heating in winter and it will soon attract damp or more properly condensation.

You can heat the building using a small frost heater a=for about £20 but it costs money for the energy.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I just need to alarm it! It's got a four point locking system, which I suspect doesn't mean anything with a determined thief, but as my bikes are cheap, they're only the target of scrotes.

Scrotes like an easy nick, so they can rag it around the field, innit.
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