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Christoffee
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Lube Reply with quote

I know! Done to death! I've been reading though...

I've been using wurth dry lube, and I have a dry, shitty chain. Gonna get some ep90 and stick it on with a toothbrush (a Paddy or Roger plan I think). Any objections?
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain maintenance should be the least of your worries on a cbf Wink

I just use good old fashioned (free for me) chain lube of the wet variety Very Happy
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Christoffee
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutchy wrote:
Chain maintenance should be the least of your worries on a cbf Wink


For sure, but such is life. Yamaha next, so no worries there!

Clutchy wrote:
I just use good old fashioned (free for me) chain lube of the wet variety Very Happy


Like this?: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-Motorcycle-Cycle-Chain-Lube-Lubricate-Oil-Spray-Motorbike-Bike-Bicycle-200ml-/370881766861
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use parafin and a toothbrush. Clean chain, wipe off and allow to dry and then re apply wurth dry wax oil stuff.

Yes it looks dry when it is applied but the stuff is fantastic. Not only does it oil your chain for you it helps protect it from the salt and crud from the road over winter. It tends to stick to the wax and not get into the chain.

Just re apply the oil every week or so and allow it to build up over winter. In spring repeat the first paragraph.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking anal or chain?

As far as I'm concerned, if it's anal, no lube required...
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Organic = water based, KY.

Mechanical = any oil based lube. I was going with 10w40, but I'm currently trying bearing grease just for giggles. Marigold glove, slap it on by hand if you like, there's no magic to it.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 23 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite working on all sorts of wonderful kit for a living, I can honestly say that near everything I have learned is not that useful on my bike. So from scratting around in the dark myself I can tell you that using a wax lube whilst doing the job well is an absolute ballache to clean up after its chucks its muck all over your wheel. The plus side is it is pretty enduring and lower maintenance overall.

On the opposite end of the scale, you could use old engine oil and it would do the job admirably, but you may find you have to redo it far more frequently, much easier cleanup on the wheel though Thumbs Up

Possibly the best solution but untested by myself is some variation of this https://www.scottoiler.com//us/
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't over think chain maintenance. On a CBF125, especially, not too much can go wrong. I see couriers and pizza delivery drivers riding around with chains dragging on the ground, held together by rust. They're not dead, at least not yet.

In winter/shit/rainy weather, I would put it on the centre stand and give it a spray (on the inside, aimed roughly at 7 o'clock on the rear sprocket) with a dry wax chain lube, once around, every two or three days. In dry, summery weather, once a week was plenty. Clean it (with chain cleaner spray or paraffin) when it looks dirty. Wash and let dry and then reapply the lube.

The most helpful thing anyone every told me about chain lubing is use little, use often. The chain just needs a small amount of lube to keep the x or o rings (between the plates) moist.

I used Rockoil chain wax because it was sold around the corner at the Honda dealer and I found it flung less than Wurth, which is also very good. It gets all over the back of your bike. It's a bitch to remove. But on a CBF, anything between the road salt and metal is probably a good thing. Smile

On a bigger bike, consider a chain oiler. I use one. I still have to clean my chain every once in a while, but it reduces the amount of time I spend squatting on my driveway in the dark in the winter, which is a good thing. Don't even consider using a chain oiler on a 125.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just grab a rag, wipe the chain so its free of most crap, used 10w40 and a toothbrush. Scrub it all over and repeat in a few days/next ride.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use old engine oil, I'd never put wax or anything on my chain, it's all fucking shite, doesn't penetrate the links, doesn't lubricate, attracts all the road shite and turns into a grinding paste.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot oiler marvellous invention just top it up occasionally and sometimes give the chain a clean. bit of oil sometimes flicks onto the wheel but nothing major.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 24 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many opinions! Thanks to all.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 25 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using wurth wax for ages without issue. Are you putting it on when the chains warmed up [take it for a run after cleaning it, or even use a hair-dryer on it after application if you can't get out/its pissing down etc]. If its not hot it tends not to settle onto and into the links very well, so the next time you ride its all hardened and dryed externally and just gets flung off in lumps.
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Paul2129
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 28 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add, my CBR600 has a (now old style) Scottoiler, of the manual type, works absolutely great, and once you have the quantity set right you can just leave it. The oil lasts absoutely ages, and when the chain looks a bit grubby, you can turn up the oil and it washes the much away... but too much and you have it on your tyre. Much reccomended, but for a CBF125.......

..... it just so happens that I have a CBF125, I have a 'Loobman' oiler, well, to be exact, I do have a CBF125, but I also have a CG125, and the Loobman I'm refferring to is on that and has been for 12 months or more. the CBF is in the process of having it own oiler fitted. I mainly use my 125's for commuting, so I'm not so concerned if I get a bit of oil splatter, it's easily cleaned when I was the bike, more important if you're using a bike as day-to-day transport is to have effective lubrication to cope with rain and bad weather. I run the Loobman oiler on olive oil currently, seems to go down better with my dad when it drips on his driveway. the chain looks nice and wet, and it's a push-button operation. Sure, the reviewers are right, the thing isn't made great, but it's nothing that a couple of extra cable ties can't sort, and for about £25, what can you expect.

In summary, I'd say, if you've got £10K worth of Fireblade, go with the scottoiler, for a 125cc commuter thats used every day, I'd go with the Lubeman, make a good job of fitting it, and save your reciept
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Christoffee
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who care, I went for ep90 and a toothbrush. Great result. Lovely oily wet chain with no flicking.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wurth dry lube is crap.

iPone racing chain is alright. Oil is good.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 11 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
Wurth dry lube is crap.

I find it pretty decent stuff tbh but, only at certain times of the year, when the weather's decent. I found that I needed to re-apply it almost on a daily basis at this time of year, so always use an oil based lube. Come summer though, I'll be using the dry lube again.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 11 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock oil chain lube is fantastic, but it's residue is hard to clean up.

All this rain washes it off within a day though. Shocked and i can hear the tight spot in the chain.

My solution is so far, I'm in the process of making an auto chain luber.

Just two stroke oil, on a drip feed. Supposed to be 1 drop per minute I think? I'll be using a tank petcock, hooked up to some radiator hose with a cap in it (take a few 100ml). Aimed at the chain near the front sprocket, I'll attach metal so it won't stray from the path of the chain.

That's the idea anyway, I used to have one of those cheapo kits off ebay. But it was tat. The adjuster was far too fiddly and cheap feeling. Too far too much oil, not enough turn nothing at all.... etc...
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