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The other Paul Rudd
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: My engine a splode Reply with quote
After my father had used the poor thing to commute on for a few weeks a head gasket finally cried enough.

Let's do this.
https://i41.tinypic.com/25fraxh.jpg
Poor thing.
https://i40.tinypic.com/33ubtzm.jpg
Motor in the stand and the top end removed.
https://i44.tinypic.com/2lm08sh.jpg
You shouldn't glue a motor back together with Hylomar?
https://i44.tinypic.com/2you5ua.jpg
No.
https://i42.tinypic.com/2nqsj07.jpg
Fecked.
https://i42.tinypic.com/2l9ijwm.jpg
Waddayamean you shouldn't use pliers to remove the power valves?
https://i39.tinypic.com/fadfo4.jpg
Or a screwdriver?
https://i42.tinypic.com/2uz2yhy.jpg
Or chisel and pry the heads off with a screwdriver? Thankfully they can be salvaged. Some of the damage can be seen near the water outlet on the refinished head.
https://i44.tinypic.com/10p0b3d.jpg
So. Yeah. I should stop when a nut feels tight?
https://i43.tinypic.com/2vcxik7.jpg
More Hylomar is good. Right?
https://i40.tinypic.com/v33jad.jpg

I had a budget of around £1000 before cleaning the PVs and they've now blown a big hole in the budget. It was 50/50 on replacing them anyway, but I'd rather the decision hadn't been made for me. Crying or Very sad Laughing

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LongJohn22
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hylomar is blue....some silicon instant gasket compounds are orange.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
LongJohn22 wrote:
Hylomar is blue....some silicon instant gasket compounds are orange.
ORLY?
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The other Paul Rudd
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
LongJohn22 wrote:
Hylomar is blue....some silicon instant gasket compounds are orange.


I've no idea. I'm not a bodgy cunt so it's not something I keep in my toolbox.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 02 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
What the bike looked like before he started. Sadly I can't find any better photos. Sad

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PostPosted: 09:22 - 03 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your dad commuted on a VJ22?

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PostPosted: 10:42 - 03 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I only wish I could get the engine out off the frame whenever I need to work on it. Crying or Very sad

Anyway, cool stuff, keep us posted. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 03 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
UnspeedySam wrote:
What the bike looked like before he started. Sadly I can't find any better photos. Sad

https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/image_210.jpg


https://www.google.com/search?q=RGV+250&client=aff-maxthon-newtab&hs=WVO&channel=t2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=M5TGUuufFIKpyAPvgoDwDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1771&bih=885 Thumbs Up
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The other Paul Rudd
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 03 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=RGV+250&client=aff-maxthon-newtab&hs=WVO&channel=t2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=M5TGUuufFIKpyAPvgoDwDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1771&bih=885 Thumbs Up


The picture Sam posted is of my bike and I'm stood in the background.

The engine is fairly easy to drop out providing you remember to disconnect the clutch cable first. Laughing It's so light.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 03 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other Paul Rudd wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=RGV+250&client=aff-maxthon-newtab&hs=WVO&channel=t2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=M5TGUuufFIKpyAPvgoDwDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1771&bih=885 Thumbs Up


The picture Sam posted is of my bike and I'm stood in the background.

The engine is fairly easy to drop out providing you remember to disconnect the clutch cable first. Laughing It's so light.


Sorry, my bad.

Every bike I've ever owned had a heavy in-line four four stroke in it. Thumbs Up
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The other Paul Rudd
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Winning.
https://i41.tinypic.com/a59wg0.jpg
Found three of these. They're the thrust washers that hold the small end bearing in place and there should be four of them. Shows just what a ham-fisted spastic the previous owner was.
https://i40.tinypic.com/2cgouis.jpg
Half way there.
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This is going to be replaced. There is very little play in the bearingsand it's within spec, it didn't make any noises while the bike was running, there is a little rust on the left hand bearing but it would probably be fine to use as a replacement or spare. PM me with an offer if interested.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The orange stuff will be permatex copper gasket sealant it's good stuff when used correctly.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other Paul Rudd wrote:
LongJohn22 wrote:
Hylomar is blue....some silicon instant gasket compounds are orange.


I've no idea. I'm not a bodgy cunt so it's not something I keep in my toolbox.


These products are only bodges when used in the same way as shown in your stripdown photos. Gasket compounds used in the correct manner are quite legitimate methods of repair and are used widely by the major motor manufacturers.

Your quote of "I've no idea", is most apt in this context and until you at least gain a basic idea of the properties and uses of these products you would be well advised to steer well clear.

I'm not a bodgy cunt either, but I have used these, and other gasketing materials for nigh on 50 years now since I completed my apprenticeship in 1965, with very few problems, and I continue to use them where appropriate.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 11 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
You'll be using some yamabond or equivalent on the crankcases of the RGV! Wink not quite like the last owner did tho! Look forward to seeing the rebuild progress! Are you fitting kit/RG 125/ fitting drains to the power valve covers to drain the usual spooge build up whilst it's apart?
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The other Paul Rudd
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 11 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
A cheap Chinese Ebay £10 special screen arrived this morning.
https://i42.tinypic.com/ek51r6.jpg
It looks a bit younger, and slightly less like a chav's handbag, plus the fairing can be used for it's intended purpose as I can see through the screen.

bladerunner wrote:
You'll be using some yamabond or equivalent on the crankcases of the RGV! Wink not quite like the last owner did tho! Look forward to seeing the rebuild progress! Are you fitting kit/RG 125/ fitting drains to the power valve covers to drain the usual spooge build up whilst it's apart?


Aye, noticed that when reading through the manual. Wink The covers would be useful as it'll be covering a lot of miles and it's a pain lifting the covers off. I may modify the standard covers and turn a bung up on the lathe, just for something to do.

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Take it outside. This sort of unpleasant shit ruined my turbo project for me and is why I now have zero interest in working on it. I’m fully aware of when it’s needed and I don’t need an obnoxious cunt speaking down to me about it like I’m a child.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 11 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Smile
Bad week at school, was it?
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