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PostPosted: 11:10 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: YBR 05 centre stand. Need advice please... Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm trying to remove my centre stand so to fit a new one, I've taken everything else off but I'm now faced with the stands pivot pin....??? Shocked How on earth do I get this off? Shocked
I have never done any thing like this before and I presumed there would be some obvious way of doing it. Seems I was wrong.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as this good weather my disappear before I finish this thread.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea, but that chain.... the centre stand is the least of your worries Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that dirt or rust? Confused

Made in 2005 and looks like you parked it acid. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which area are you trying to remove?
Quite unclear pic
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm fully aware that the chain is bad condition, but my bikes been off the road a while. It's been under tarp but with all this rain and damp stuff like that happens..
The reason I need to fit the stand is I don't won't it being blow over in the wind and having to cause me to fit new brackets and handle bars like I'm have to do after this if I manage to get it off...
Thanks for the oblivious advice..
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to remove the pin to which I can then swap stands and put it all back together.. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it that big rod in the middle of the picture?

Try looking for anything relevant to it, Engineering can be fun, there is always a way, try loosening any bolts, screws. (Please ensure its not a bolt for the bike)

Could try lubing it up and lightly tapping the end with a hammer if there is none. Can't me much help sorry as I can't see much.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could park it in a better place and not have a cover on it in high winds... but hey.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

blimey, you been doing "underwater" manoeuvres with that? or is it just lacking lube?

on my lil CG pivot bolt thingy was held in with a split pin

take pin out an hit with BFH


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PostPosted: 11:36 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think looking at the parts book it unscrews probably got an allen head inside the end you can get at
Or it may be held by the Bolt fro the left hand footrest hanger
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
Better.


Have you ever seen this:

https://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Software_Apps/Mobile_Photography/Tips_for_Camera_Phone_Pictures/Camera_Phone_Tips_html_version.htm
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

[imghttps://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=271202092576#[/img]
Thats the part I need to remove...
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Could park it in a better place and not have a cover on it in high winds... but hey.


I love it...lol... Fail.
No it blew over on my drive way.
You know, nice evening go to bed wake up nd the weather evil and you see your bike on it's side..
Hey! Stuff happens..
Then parked in my back garden out the way and suitable parked..
And here I am today.. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

Sometimes I should preview before submitting....
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My YBR blew over out on the drive a while back too - just after I'd fitted a nice new set of end weights Mad

Quick glance at the trusty old Haynes manual and it says to remove the rear brake pedal and OPTIONALLY the exhuast for better access though clearly you don't have a problem there. Once you've gotten the springs and everything else out the way it says to "Unscrew the pivot bolt and remove the stand" so I'd say a lot of WD-40, unscrew it, and get a hammer to it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

simonjb wrote:
My YBR blew over out on the drive a while back too -mount after I'd fitted a nice new set of end weights Mad

Quick glance at the trusty old Haynes manual and it says to remove the rear brake pedal and OPTIONALLY the exhuast for better access though clearly you don't have a problem there. Once you've gotten the springs and everything else out the way it says to "Unscrew the pivot bolt and remove the stand" so I'd say a lot of WD-40, unscrew it, and get a hammer to it Thumbs Up

That's my problem.
I can't find where to unscrew it I know it's threaded into the rear brake mount. Shocked from there I'm confused..
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
That's my problem.
I can't find where to unscrew it I know it's threaded into the rear brake mount. Shocked from there I'm confused..


From the ebay listing it looks as if it's only screwed in at one end. Cover both ends in lube where it's connected to the chassis. If you can get at a part of the bolt, try gripping it with your hand or a tool and turning it, if you can tell which end it's screwed in then you'll be able to tell which way to turn the darn thing!
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found it. Very Happy

I need a 10mm male socket it's in the foot brake side...
Now hopefully I can locate one somewhere!. Karma to all.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
Found it. Very Happy

I need a 10mm male socket it's in the foot brake side...
Now hopefully I can locate one somewhere!. Karma to all.


FFS?

A 'Male' Socket? WTF? Shocked

Pass the popcorn I'm now hooked.

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I think you mean a Hex Key or a Torx Bit
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
leonski wrote:
Found it. Very Happy

I need a 10mm male socket it's in the foot brake side...
Now hopefully I can locate one somewhere!. Karma to all.


FFS?

A 'Male' Socket? WTF? Shocked

Pass the popcorn I'm now hooked.

Smile

I think you mean a Hex Key or a Torx Bit

Close! When I use the term "male socket" as oppose to a normal socket which is female.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
Close! When I use the term "male socket" as oppose to a normal socket which is female.



Words fail me.


Very Happy

Are you from Poland?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 10mm blot fits in there it has six sides so a hex or alum key won't fit so a male socket should...
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 10 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

leonski wrote:
A 10mm blot fits in there it has six sides so a hex or alum key won't fit so a male socket should...


If you say a bolt head fits do you mean an M10 bolt of a bolt with aa 10mm Head.

i.e. 10mm head means the measurement from one flat across to the other flat.

If so then you need a 10mm Hex (Allen) Key/Bit.
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:D ok prerssed for time so not read all tghread, it may be sorted by now but.............

the long pin ( tube ? ) which sticks out one side and is flanged on the other, which passes thru c/stand and frame is the stand pivot pin, the bit you cant get out.

it should rotate within the centre stand as the stand pivots on this pin, rather than the pivot pin rotating with the stand and wearing the frame holes oval..........

so, grip pivot pin and rotate stand...........lub really well and try again.

however if there is defo rust stains there so its defo rust seized into the stand, use water.

shock horror i hear..........well water is free, very biodegradeable, no toxic, washes out rust ( as its water based ) and easy to heat as it wont burn.

wash out rust, and keep trying, some heat ( thermal shocking ) may/will help.
heat parts ( the centre stand Tube, the tube the pivot pin goes thru ) red hot and quench with water till cold. repeat.

if the pivot tube can be rotated even a second relative to the stand, then you have won, just patience needed.

alternatively bash the fuck out of the pin, and finally saw pivot pin through in two places so the stand can be removed. either buy new stand and pivot pin or bench mount stand and heat etc........

these can be sods ( c50/70/90 etc ) so try gentle approach first and be patient.

ps lube pivot when job done every week, of fit grease nipple and dont sit on the bike when on the CENTRE STAND. :karma:
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