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| Tarmacsurfer |
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 Posted: 01:49 - 21 Jan 2014 Post subject: SSDs, thoughts? |
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Busy refreshing my very aged desktop system with some hand-me-down internals and I'm currently toying with the idea of replacing my trusty 5400rpm death star with something a tad quicker for the c:\ drive. Given that my last real foray into system building was back when 6GB of memory was considered to be overkill, I'm rather out of touch
In short, is an SSD worth it on an oc'd Q9450 in a P35 DS3R board? If so, any recommendations? Budget is very tight so looking firmly at the low end of the market. ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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So not worth buying unless you have a motherboard to match its speeds?
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| GhostRider wrote: |
So not worth buying unless you have a motherboard to match its speeds? |
Yes it is worth buying even with a slower SATA connection on the motherboard. 3Gbps is about 300MB/sec after protocol overheads. Some SSDs can do sequential burst reads and writes at speeds above this, but HDDs aren't that slow at sequential reads and writes either - you'll get close to 200MB/sec on a modern high-density bit of spinning rust. In any case 300MB/sec is more than fast enough for most of the times that you need really high burst read/write, outside of scientific data capture or silly file-copy benchmarks.
Where SSDs really win is random access, where your PC is trying to access small bits of data from lots of different places. SSDs are 20x faster at these operations, and it's where they make all the difference. And these are not bound by the SATA interface speed because they don't get anywhere close to 300MB/sec. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Even at SATA 2 speeds it will still be a significant performance improvement. |
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I have a couple of these, all seems good so far  |
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SSD = win
SSD RAID = more win
SSD Megaraid = even more win
PCI SSD = ultimate win
Back to SATA HDD =  |
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| GhostRider wrote: |
So not worth buying unless you have a motherboard to match its speeds?
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| prawny1 wrote: | does your board run sata natively or as ide/enhanced mode?
Some boards are not fully sata like most of the g41 boards, this means no ahci mode, no native trim etc.
Not enough of a problem to kill the benefits of ssd but still something to think about.
You would need a pcie sata controller in those cases to get the best from an ssd, you can still use the on board controller for optical drives or for your storage drives.
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You forgot PATA |
And pio mode |
UltraDMA/66 or go home!
I run a 180gb main boot and program drive plus 2 x 4TB main data stores for video and "stuff" (*pron, stolen MP3s yada). |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 242 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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