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 Posted: 14:02 - 08 Feb 2014 Post subject: When I turn my key, nothing happens! |
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Hello,
My AJS Nac 12 won't work, it is only 6 months old, the battery has charge in it, I've visually looked at the wiring and it all seems fine.
Took the front of the bike apart to get to the ignition, it has in the bottom of the ignition, 4 wires that are soldered on, they are all connected fine.
The problem that I have is when I turn the key, nothing happens, no neutral light, the fuel gauge doesn't move, nothing!
Thanks, any advice would be great!
Adam. ____________________ AJS Nac 12 |
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You say the battery is fine? What's the voltage.
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[/quote]My old bike wouldn't give me anything when the kill switch was on.
In regards to no power at all, I'd try check and see if there is power getting to the ignition, there is a permanent live you may be able to prod with a multimeter to check for voltage.
Is it no longer under warranty?[/quote]
Ah, yeah, this one gives full power just no ignition if the kill switch is on...
And, I was looking at doing that via YouTube. If there's power getting to the ignition, but not emitting from the ignition, then it's the ignition? Also, can you replace the top bit of the barrel without replacing the bottom? Because I don't wanna be soldering.
And it is not... It was near its milage. So I rung it in for its service, they booked it in 2 weeks away. I asked wether it was okay to go over my milage because I needed to get to work, they said yes, so I carried on riding my milage went up, quite a bit. :/
And when I took it in, they refused to give me my free service and therefore voided my warrantee. Sore subject.  ____________________ AJS Nac 12 |
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| BillyJ wrote: | If you think it's the barrel then go and find the wiring diagram to figure out what connects to what when the key switch is turned.
Unplug the key barrel, stick some probes of a multimeter into whatever colours should connect when it's in the on position, turn the key, and see if there is ~0 Ohms of resistance or if you have a continuity meter it should beep showing the wires are then connected.
If it doesn't beep then the key switch/multimeter is faulty (more likely the key switch). Also if it doesn't beep try moving around the wires and wiggling the key to see if it's just a poor connection.
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Can you replace the top bit of the barrel without replacing the bottom? Because I don't wanna be soldering.
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It's rare that the key switch is soldered in, more likely that its soldered to a plug that is specifically difficult to unplug without somewhat taking the bike apart. |
I didn't receive a wiring diagram with my bike, or even a manual!
I think I'll just get everything and prod it with a multimeter.
The day previous, I had to wiggle the key to get a connection, but the next morning it did it straight away, no messing, but after I finished work in the afternoon, no amount of wiggling could get it to work...
I shall try and take a picture and post it later on...
There are like 4 wires soldered on to a plate. And above them some plastic the moves I presume to expose a connection to allow the bike to work... ____________________ AJS Nac 12 |
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| Adamhollick wrote: |
I didn't receive a wiring diagram with my bike, or even a manual!
I think I'll just get everything and prod it with a multimeter.
The day previous, I had to wiggle the key to get a connection, but the next morning it did it straight away, no messing, but after I finished work in the afternoon, no amount of wiggling could get it to work...
I shall try and take a picture and post it later on...
There are like 4 wires soldered on to a plate. And above them some plastic the moves I presume to expose a connection to allow the bike to work... |
Sounds weird... but I still think there's a plug. Anyway do what you said and prod around. figure out which wires are connected to make the ignition circuit live, if it's four wires, it'll probably be, GND, +ve and 2 other things, could be park lights or whatever, does your switch have 3 positions? ____________________ Had: '06 CBR125R + '01 GSF600 + '07 SPRINT ST 1050 + '80 CB250 RSA + '93 Ducati 900SS
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| BillyJ wrote: | | Adamhollick wrote: |
I didn't receive a wiring diagram with my bike, or even a manual!
I think I'll just get everything and prod it with a multimeter.
The day previous, I had to wiggle the key to get a connection, but the next morning it did it straight away, no messing, but after I finished work in the afternoon, no amount of wiggling could get it to work...
I shall try and take a picture and post it later on...
There are like 4 wires soldered on to a plate. And above them some plastic the moves I presume to expose a connection to allow the bike to work... |
Sounds weird... but I still think there's a plug. Anyway do what you said and prod around. figure out which wires are connected to make the ignition circuit live, if it's four wires, it'll probably be, GND, +ve and 2 other things, could be park lights or whatever, does your switch have 3 positions? |
Very weird. Too weird, I have emailed a guy from AJS requesting a wiring diagram. And stating how annoyed I am.
I shall have a better look later on, it's stuck at my girlfriends at the moment...
Yeah, and erm, I don't have parking lights, but I'll have a nosey...
Yeah, it has, steering lock, off, and ignition, then push button starter.  ____________________ AJS Nac 12 |
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Yeah, it has, steering lock, off, and ignition, then push button starter.  |
Meh, it has 2 electrical states, on and off. It only needs 2 wires.. why would they complicate it?
That doesn't matter, just figure out what wires are meant to do what in the on and the off position. Then when you know which wires are connected in the on position just keep them probed whilst wiggling the key around to see if it causes the connection to break, realise that's the problem (I think it's quite a common thing to happen with cheap key switches) and just switch out the keyswitch.
P.S. Find the socket, I will take a lot to convince me that its directly soldered into the bike. ____________________ Had: '06 CBR125R + '01 GSF600 + '07 SPRINT ST 1050 + '80 CB250 RSA + '93 Ducati 900SS
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I will be surprised if there is anything wrong with the ignition/barrel at all, because it is just a switch, and its not as if the bikes been sat outside for 8 years. So long as the key turns cleanly, I recon the contacts behind it will be fine.
And thus the problem is elsewhere.
But I could be wrong. ____________________ Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
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There is more than likely 4 wires because there is a zener diode involved to stop people being able to hotwire it. It would look something like this. I did manage to get it started from this condition, but I wouldn't advise trying to get to this point. Look for the live wire and see if it's getting anything to the switch, and switch it to on and see if the other wires light up?
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