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F650GS Dakar / G650GS Sertao or a similar big thumper?
Bags of torque, but your speed will be limited by the pummelling it delivers to your prostate. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Muscle bike.
Sports sixes do one thing; easy fast. What you are experiencing is the lack of engagement and limited sensation they deliver.
If you shift genre's, and common one when licence is in peril is a motard; you get loonie buzz from them, briefly, but its a perversion. Dirt bikes, are horendousely compromised in design for off-road, then compromised even more to make them a road bike again. The high CofG perverse geometry and long soft suspension, then, utterly the oposite of a sports bike, means that you can discover the joy of exploring the machines limits... but... those limits you know are short change, a 'propper' sports bike wouldn't have them, and many want to go back to propper sports bike after.
Searching for the 'fun', lot of more experienced bikers, self included, end up returning to tidlers; little bikes you have to work hard to get anything out of, and which you dont have to take too seriousely.
Something like an Aprillia RS125 or Mito, then, are bikes that can thoroughly 'engage' the rider, and for some-one with the experience to apreciate it, be incredibly engaging, demanding you work for your thrills.
Still a little single minded though; and again, yearning for something that delivers 'more' in the shape of big legue sports will start to tugg... troubke is tiddler will have tought you how to push something right to the ragged edge, and doing that on a 6 is not condusive to a long and healthy life.
Tourers? Something different still. Can have the beef to not feel totally pedestrian, or need to be worked so hard to make them go anywhere, shift the focus of attension from actual riding to simply being some-where, on a bike. Comfort, convenience and relaxed riding is thier forte, BUT, little incipid, and lacking in rider involvement.
Hence Muscle Bike. They dont have any area of excellence; but; at a push you can hustle one down the twisties to get the blood going, and will demand rider envolvement for it. You can load one up with luggage and take it touring, and they dont need to be hard work. But again, not making it 'as' easy as packing a suitcase in your bedroom and simply clipping it to the lugs on the bike; are a bit more engaging whilst they are about it.
Soft, general purpose, a little of everything bikes, I recomend this type of machine as first big bikes for this reason. Its a good progression from learner bikes, that lets you find what you DO like in biking and do a fair bit of it, and let it still be 'fun', without instantly disguarding all but easy fast or kwik thrills, or loonie stunting.
You get one; you mess with it, adapt it to suit what you do with it, and when you have experienced a fair amount of what biking might have to offer... THEN you might want to pick a more specialist niche machine.
That's where I suggest you go look for your next bike.
Big soft all-rounder. Muscle Bikes, or 'Nakeds'. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | Yeah really been fancying an XJR lately for some reason. |
Price. Same reason you liked all the other bikes you've bought!
They have started dropping into the 'affordable' £1000-£2000 price range lately. Snowie keeps finding them, and they are OH SO tempting! I just know how there's no such thing as a 'cheap' litre, and what you dont spend on buying the thing, it will lever out your wallet in running it! Though I do still keep trying to find excuses to the contrary! And have been eyeing old FJ's, in semi-seriousness.
(Got Snowie to sit one when she was still on L's... told her it was a 600! ... so she keeps showing me old XJ6's and Divvies on e-bay But 12, such a long low old beast, wouldn't take more than a few clicks of pre-load to drop it so she could flat-foot; may be heavy, but they are so nicely balanced; and her restrictions up this summer!) ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Thanks for the advice mike/roger it has given me something to think about.
I am swaying towards a cheap motor cross ??? If that's what you call them and a wild hog bike to go traveling with a tent etc. The reasoning behind this is I hate cleaning bikes so no point getting a decent bike as I am under no illusion the bike is going to get dropped loads every time out, it can also be kept outside without the worry of stuff going rusty.
The wild hog bike I am looking at is the type that you wear a matt black open front helmet, have a handle bar moustache, have loads of tattoos, look intimidating at car drivers and not let on to sports bike riders
I can keep this one in my lock up so it won't get rusty.
To be honest passing all the tests is the easiest part, picking the right bike when they all kind of look the same is the hard part. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 302 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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