A cure for AIDS?

[Lord Percy]

This popped up on my facebook page today:

https://www.google.com/patents/US5676977

A bit of internet searching just brings up a load of tinfoil hat websites but never anything useful to explain it properly.

One suggestion is that the patent is total rubbish because a lot of scientists etc will file patents for anything under any title just for the sake of having a patent on their CV, and in the end you can presumably get a patent on anything anyway, regardless of whether it's useful or not.

Thoughts, anyone?

[fatpies]

Although it might sound conspiracy, there are many MANY vested interests in hiding or preventing a cure being found.

Drug cocktails for AIDS cost anywhere from $13000 to $36000 a year. It is something they HAVE to take and you can set the price as high as you want.


It is more profitable to treat it than cure it.

Same with many many charities. If they ended whatever like child abuse, cancer, poverty, they would be out of jobs.
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[Lord Percy]

Yeah I think it's BS too to be honest. I understand a lot of big industries have major interests in keeping certain things from happening, but the amount research from young aspirational types must mean that this patent has been bumped into many times.

I just wondered if any BCF biology-chemistry people might have some advanced level of knowledge in the area.

[Gunge]

It is true that patent applications can be filed for anything, but granted patents from major territories tend to have at least something of merit. I guess the examiner was convinced by the 'evidence' in the case about how patients had been cured - though it looks to me to be pseudo-scientific rubbish rather than credible work.

[DrSnoosnoo]

Filed almost 20 years ago yet no cure, a load of nuts IMO along with the toilet snorkel.

Like the idiots who believe canabis cures all cancers because insert anecdote.
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[Skudd]

Aids isn't curable at the moment but it is easy to live with now, almost just like having diabetes or high blood pressure. There have been some reports of women becoming immune to it or babies doing the same. Headlines at the time, but nothing since.
It will be cured one day, like all these sorts of things it will be eradicated and kept in a freezer in some lab.

As for the common cold. This is an alien life form and mutates to survive here on earth.
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[-Matt-]

I'm 50-50 on the AIDS thing. I don't think its conspiracy worthy, but I think theres less effort and investment into a cure than there could be, for possibly dubious reasons. I suspect more political than profit related if so though.

For things like the common cold/general infections its not as straight forward - antibiotics are becoming largely redundant, as common infections are so adaptable they are defeating these drugs not only quicker than they can be administered but quicker than pharma can make and distribute alternatives, this isn't a conspiracy but a general threat to health. Its largely the reason why a lot of doctors now will initially administer paracetamol and other generally 'generic/useless' drugs. Not because they don't care/aren't doing their job, but because they're concerned about the larger impact of excessive use of anti-biotics and other drugs in situations they really aren't nescessary.

See https://www.who.int/drugresistance/en/

[Clutchy]

If we cured aids wouldn't the population spiral out of control?
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Simple cure for AIDS: kill / quarantine everyone who has it.
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[Islander]

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IIRC these days the chances of getting HIV from infected blood etc is pretty low as donors blood/bodily fluids are all screened for it now. Of course not everywhere in the world has the same stringent standards though.

I should imagine that rape cases also account for a good number of new infections. I gather all that non-consenual man-love that occurs in stateside jails is resulting in a massive proportion of HIV+ prisoners.

Down in africa too, where rapes are common and beliefs such as "free aids cure with each baby rape" proliferate, loads of poor fuckers too get infected through no fault of their own.

That said, HIV/AIDS is too slow a killer to be an effective population control IMO, the lengthy death means you usually have plenty of time to shit out more kids before shuffling off the coil. Ideally infection->death time would be less that the gestation time (9 months). Although that is offset by the shorted the time to live, the lesser chance of spreading the infection. No doubt someone somewhere has conducted a study into this and has calculated the optimal time till death; maximising the chances of spread, whilst minimising the number of kids that can be born in the intervening time.

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