Do I need a driving(car) licence or a provisional motorbike.

[markk21]

.. Licence for my CBT? I'm doing my CBT on Tuesday. Do I just need both parts of my car licence?

Thanks!

[Tungtvann]

Pretty certain you need (at least) a provisional licence. No green/pink card (and paper) no good!

Edit: do you have 'A' as a provisional entitlement on your licence?

[Clutchy]

You need both parts, one student got sent home to collect his before the guy gave him his certificate.
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[Teflon-Mike]

There's no 'seperate' licences; you have a UK Driving licence, that affords entitlement for different vehicle groups

If you have passed car test, you have 'full' car entitlement;
if you haven't passed a bike test, then you 'should' have 'provisional' entitlement for motorcycles, (and all other groups you haven't passed a test for yet), which is 'validated' on completion of Compulsary Basic Training Course, and issue of the CBT Cert form DL196, for up to two years.

NO, you dont need to apply for a 'different' licence.
(though in some cases, I think old paper only licences, provisional motorcycle entitlement was not 'automatically' granted, in which case you may have to update your licence to gain provisional M/C entitlement)

YES, you SHOULD be asked to produce both parts of your UK driving licence to ensure you have entitlement to do CBT at the beginning of the course.

Check with your CBT school what they say you should take with you, before you turn up.

They might also have no catering facilities; and be a long way from a snack shop; so a packed lunch, and if weathers good PLENTY of soft drink for the day.

Also follow dress code. They wont allow you on the bike if you are in stilletto heels or flip-flops for example, or wearing shorts and T-shirt.

Other wise; its BASIC training; your first lesson; you shouldn't need much more than two ears, two eyes and a little common sense. Just turn up, and talk and play bikes; have fun and dont sweat the small stuff; and IF you are unsure about anything ASK. That's what teacher's there for; to answer questions, no matter how 'daft' they may seem. Have fun and enjoy.
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[markk21]

I have looked at my photo card licence and it says Cat. B,B1, fkp and the codes 122 and 115. There is no sign of any motorbike entitlement? I got my licence in Jan 2010 if that is relevant.

Thanks

[Teflon-Mike]

[markk21]

I've just checked my counterpart driving licence and it says category A. So that okay for the cbt isn't it?

Thanks

[MC]

Yep, did my CBT with the same (full drivers license). Far as I'm aware you don't specify when applying for your provisional whether you want to learn to drive or ride, and a full drivers license has provisional motorcycle entitlement.
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[markk21]

How did you get on busbar?

Will a light jacket, trainers and jeans be suitable clothing for my CBT tomorrow?

[Robster]

Wish I saw this thread earlier

[MC]

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[markk21]

Yeah I didn't really want to wear trainers. I've just found some good hiking boots I have so I'll take them. I have some cycling gloves; should I take them or is it a waste of time?

[MC]

Wore hiking bikes on mine & had trouble with the shifter as the toe was so big. I wore cycling gloves but it was January.
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[markk21]

Just got back from my cbt and they said I need to go back for more training. My initial problems were that I kept using the front brake and slow speeds because I was used to a push bike. I eventually got the hang of using the back brake at slow speeds. Also I was looking down to much at the bike and not straight ahead. I eventually sorted out these problems but the next problem was the emergency stop. Initially, I wasn't bringing the clutch in enough. On the third attempt I did do it correctly but the instructor said I kept changing down on the emergency stop, which I think I was doing with my weight as the gear pedal seemed really sensitive. The final part was the junction exercise. I stalled the bike a few times either pulling away from the stop junction or practising turning right. I also kept checking my left shoulder when doing these exercises when I didn't need to which meant that I was concentrating on too many things which leaded to me stalling a few times. Afterwards I spoke to the instructor and she said I'd done very well for someone who has never ridden a bike before and that I need to iron out my main problems of poor clutch control and using the correct brakes at the correct times. She said she thinks I'd make a very good safe rider and that once I get the problems sorted out it shouldn't take me too long to pass my big bike test.

Obviously I'm really gutted I didn't get to the certificate but I found the day really useful and enjoyable. I'm on the guarantee pass programme so I'm back next week to try again.

Any advice on what I can do to improve would be much appreciated.

Thanks

[Rogerborg]

Principled advice: don't sweat it.

Never having ridden a geared bike before, I found that there was a lot to take in during the CBT, and too little time actually on the bikes to get it right. You're using both hands and both feet for fine control, doing the trickiest slow speed manoeuvres on an unstable bike in a cramped yard full of other wobblers under intense observation. It really doesn't get any harder than that, and I felt swamped.

Returning refreshed for a second bite at it, it was suddenly much easier. Things had sunk in, I was more confident, and I really enjoyed the road ride.

You're doing the right thing splitting it over another day.


Practical advice: forget the rear brake. Really. I've barely touched it since the CBT. You can control a bike at slow speed just on the throttle and clutch. You can rest your foot on it to fool the instructor or test examiner, but unless the road is very wet it's just for show.

Emergency stop means stop. You can actually stall on the mod 1 test and still pass, so don't worry about getting the clutch in. View that as a bonus. If you're kicking it down then you're foot is on the gearshift. Keep it on the peg, and your hands on the grips unless you're actually using the control: don't hover over them.

Stalling, well we all do that. I stalled my GS recently in the middle of a U-turn and "laid it down". The trick is to laugh it off and just get going again.

It is worth it: it only gets better from there, and bigger bikes are easier to ride. Hand on heart.
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[markk21]

Thanks Roger. There really was a lot to take in. I'm not sure what I expected today but I really found some of it a bit overwhelming.

I'm really looking forward to having another go and I've told myself it's not the end of the world just because I didn't get the certificate today.

The instructor said she wouldn't be able to take me on the road because stalled on the emergency stop. I was a bit surprised by that but it makes sense.

Thanks for the advice it was really helpful.

Copycat - I'm having a nice cold Peroni in the garden so life is good!

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[markk21]

I'm actually quite glad that I'm going back for more training. The fact that you can ride a 125cc bike after a few hours training seemed a bit crazy to me.

I was amazed how vulnerable I felt even though I never actually got out on the road. Maybe that's a good thing as it hopefully makes you more aware.