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PostPosted: 17:21 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Technological advancements of the last decade. Reply with quote

So what do people think are the best technological advancements in motorcycles of the last decade?

For me its carbon fibre element heated clothing.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thread.

Bolt on anti spin, fuel/ignition mapping (you can also swap to another map on the fly) and quickshifter for £600 odd (Bazzaz unit)? That gets my vote. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traction control.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me that performance and practicality is largely going backwards while complexity and cost increases.

Umm. Better fuel efficiency from smarter injection systems is a bonus.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure when the first one came out, but wasn't on my radar until a few years ago, I'll go with helmets with internal sun visor.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather airbag suits or whatever they're called.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we conflating bike technology with bike-adjacent technology?

Heated gear can be used in a car (I've built and owned a Lotus 7 replica).

Airbag gear was designed for horsists.

My GS is a far, far more competent bike than my Enfield. Lovely smooth FI, ABS, start and just go.

I far, far prefer the Enfield.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Not sure when the first one came out, but wasn't on my radar until a few years ago, I'll go with helmets with internal sun visor.
I never thought of that, but I agree.

The ability to go from tint to no tint in an instant is a necessary requirement on 75% of British days. The remaining year can be split into 1% where you can wear sunglasses all day and 24% where it's permanently overcast or pissing down.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ongoing improvements in tyre developments (obviously longer than a decade but the range of tyres available to us now is far better than ever before, unfortunately with an ever increasing price tag!)
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre development is my Thumbs Up too.

Couldn't really give a shit about ABS, Anti-Spin, launch control etc... They all take the good bits out of riding a bike.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre development imo.

The fact you can do a track day on the latest sports touring tyre and it gives you more grip than the best sports tyre from 10 years ago... whilst still giving you the wet grip and tyre life you'd expect from a touring tyre...

2 seconds a lap quicker round Anglesey I think the ST tyre was, if I recall the recent MCN test correctly.


If development continues at this rate we'll all have the perfect tyre sometime in the near-ish future.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

rear facing average speed cameras
ok not the best but way up there as most significant


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PostPosted: 20:20 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wristjob wrote:
rear facing average speed cameras


I smell an imposter!
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and of course the anpr cameras that track peoples movement around the country without anyone agreeing to it
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
The ongoing improvements in tyre developments (obviously longer than a decade but the range of tyres available to us now is far better than ever before, unfortunately with an ever increasing price tag!)


Engine, Tyres & Brakes!!

We all now have the same power available to us as 500ccGP bikes. How good is that?

Also ABS to stop us (in a straight line) - self compensating suspension on some bikes like the new BMW1000R.

Is it called Skyhook on the Ducati Multistrada where the GPS controls the suspension system? Scary in my opinion.!

I guess that Ive seen Terminator too many times. Smile

So many advancements - but do we need them all is the question? Smile
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either Tyre or engine development.

I'm still surprised by how much better on fuel my STR is compared to the Daytona 650, despite having a bigger engine, worse aerodynamics, more usable power and being ridden more spiritedly it goes about 40 miles further on a tank... Tanks smaller too Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyres don't feel any gripper to me.

The Michelin pilot sport were just as good if not better then the dunlop qualifier 2, or the pilot road 2ct.

Is there any evidence pointing to tyres offering more traction?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to be advancements in fuel injection/ECU technology in addition to improved lighter engine and chassis components.

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonesie wrote:
Either Tyre or engine development.

I'm still surprised by how much better on fuel my STR is compared to the Daytona 650, despite having a bigger engine, worse aerodynamics, more usable power and being ridden more spiritedly it goes about 40 miles further on a tank... Tanks smaller too Laughing


I'm afraid that I couldn't possibly pass judgement on engines or ABS, my 20 year old ZZR will still turn heads though, which is good enough for me! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drax wrote:


So many advancements - but do we need them all is the question? Smile


Never mind need them, do we even *want* them? The tyres I'll take - the rest don't interest me. Not even EFI.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Tyres don't feel any gripper to me.

The Michelin pilot sport were just as good if not better then the dunlop qualifier 2, or the pilot road 2ct.

Is there any evidence pointing to tyres offering more traction?


Does timed laps on the new Bridgestone T30 sports touring tyre vs the Battlax BT-014 count as evidence?

MCN compared the two tyres on the same bike at Anglesey and found them better in every single area...
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
c-m wrote:
Tyres don't feel any gripper to me.

The Michelin pilot sport were just as good if not better then the dunlop qualifier 2, or the pilot road 2ct.

Is there any evidence pointing to tyres offering more traction?


Does timed laps on the new Bridgestone T30 sports touring tyre vs the Battlax BT-014 count as evidence?

MCN compared the two tyres on the same bike at Anglesey and found them better in every single area...


I'll take a pair of any modern road tyres over the offerings from the eighties. I would hope that Chinese 'Flung-dungs' have improved over the years but to get the same traction they offered back then you'd need a large tub of axle grease to give a suitable re-creation!
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 10 years off. When I came back Pinlocks and internal visors blew me away.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herrow.

You lot wrote:
fuel technology innit


F650GS, a notably fuel efficient lean burn modern bike = 67mpg.

Royal Enfield carbie = 80mpg+.

On the same commute, with the Enfield getting me there in the same time, or quicker.

It would be a different story at a sustained 60mph+, but how many of us really do that, day after day, mile after mile?
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 26 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see for road rider's how 190-200bhp 1000cc engines that have to rev to 14000rpm, and make the same torque as 140-150bhp 1000cc engines is a forwards step? I should stop harping on about this, but litre bikes used to pull like bastards at 3-4000rpm, not so anymore!

Tyre development has been much more amazing than anything else so far, but I suppose bikes finally getting as clean as cars without having the performance severely impaired is a good step forward.

Big piston forks?

compact bike suitable ABS?

Performance, and styling and the showcasing/willy waving of trick expensive to build and well made special sportsbikes has gone very backwards though!

I don't believe that Honda could build a bike as good as the RC30/45 again if they tried for example!
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