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138 days, what an amazing use of court resources.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't have been prosecuted, just that when you put CPS monkeys up against the kind of legal gorillas that the great and the good can afford, they should have kept it a lot shorter and clearer.
Maybe just throw a bucket of water over Brooks and invite the jury to draw their own conclusions. What a world, what a world. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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So because they are disillusioned with how they were treated by their own they suddenly agree with indiscriminate killing of their innocent countrymen and women on and about their business? I ain't buying that, and the forces people I know, and the family I have who have served don't either. I'm pretty sure my cousin who nearly had her face burnt off in a train blast would disagree too. |
No, you have it completely wrong.
They join up (some at least) believing some of the crap about Britain being a great place that incessantly tries to make the world a better place for everyone yada yada yada. They believe the propaganda, and actually want to help make a positive difference in the world.
At some later point, they realise (their own realisation, yours may be different) that the ideals they thought they were fighting for don't exist. The things they were brought up to believe about the UK and UK foreign policy were complete bullshit, and that the country they were assisting does not have the good intentions they thought it had. Ergo they feel cheated, they feel that while they fought for the right reasons, they unintentionally assisted a more worthless cause, and many of the people they signed up to protect really do not deserve that protection (for many reasons).
They don't want the indiscriminate killing of their countrymen at all, though some really don't deserve the protections we have.
Different people have different opinions (based on different experiences and sources of information, which you believe is up to you but there is an element of truth in most things). Your cousins opinion is no more or less valid than Tungtvanns, and without complete knowledge of every miniscule detail (something no-one has), neither opinion could definitively be called out as "right" or "wrong".
I am under no illusion though that this country is full of shits, and does, at times, fight for all the wrong reasons. |
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I think the whole phone hacking thing was blown out of proportion in the media. As far as I am aware, they didn't cause any material harm to people, nor did they hold any information that would have been useful to the police. It all came down to accessing voicemail by using the default pin code, and using the information gained to get a scoop and sell newspapers. An invasion of privacy, but once a person has become the subject of a major nationwide media story, privacy has disappeared.
It wasn't ethical, but it was hardly the crime of the century either.
What surprises me is that the various other ways information can be gathered on a person, methods used by private investigators, are still seen as acceptable. Many of those are far more intrusive and shady, and still happen.
As for some good to come out of the situation- one odious tabloid was closed (NOTW), and the other tabloids quickly learned that they also need to be a bit careful. The phrase "too big to fail" only applies to banks.
Murdoch's empire will slowly shrink. See who still wants to pay for news or other media in a decade. |
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Mark has it bang on, but I'll put some of it into my own words.
I never joined the military for ideological reasons, it was a job and looked like I'd have fun doing it. It's still a job but I'm no longer having so much fun doing it. It's nothing to do with the way I've been treated at all, I signed up, I don't feel bitter for my experiences, it's on a grander scale than me.
I think some jihadists may be right that this country is sometimes morally bankrupt. I don't want an Islamic caliphate under sharia law, nor do I advocate the killing of innocent civilians. I'd still fight for, and put my life on the line for that. But please tell me when that's ever been our job? We've been fighting bullshit wars, for bullshit politicians in bullshit countries. See how Iraq turned out? Wasn't worth a single British life. I think Afghanistan will turn to a similar shit sandwich within a few years.
I feel that certain people in our country can do whatever the hell they like, if you've got the money, you're untouchable. Joe Public better stay in line though, he'll go to prison for years for not paying his taxes! I don't need to labour the point about our justice system further.
So I made an OTT comment about this country burning, I think most people got the exaggeration, but understood my sentiment and the angle I was coming from. |
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Horrible, corrupt, stuck up, scummy lying bitch....she should make a good politician, perhaps our next female PM
They all suck up to Murdoch and yet the bloke hates the UK and would love to see it/is enjoying watching it go down the pan  ____________________ Space Is Deep
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 141 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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