Respraying my bike with Rattle Cans

Phil D · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Karma :

After I've sorted out a few more issues with my newest steed I'm probably going to respray the tank, front mudguard and rear cowl in black. The tank is a bit beat up from various drops from the previous owner (cheers mate!) the worst of which is below:

https://s9.postimg.org/sgmkmg9wf/image.jpg

Although there are a few others and a small bit of surface rust.

As there are small bits of surface rust do I need to strip it back to bare metal or can I just sand back the affected areas and do some spot rustproofing/etch priming/filling?

Im looking at either a matte or satin black paint job with a matte clear coat. Im sure the standard acrylic based halford rattle cans will do for the plastics but for the tank is there any sort of rattle can paint that will give some resistance to petrol?

Any recommendations for brands of stuff to use?

Efes123 · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Sep 2011 Karma :

Depends on how good you want it to look. For the best result, sand it right back. But if you spend time on a few coats you might get a way with just sanding the affected area. I've used both of these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-PETROL-RESISTANT-LACQUER-PAINT-SPRAY-500ML-HIGH-GLOSS-laquer-aerosol-/360740458378?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item53fdce8f8a
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYCOTE-PETROL-RESISTANT-CLEAR-LACQUER-SPRAY-PAINT-/140890011886?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item20cdb2f8ee
And they are both pretty good
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Phil D · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Karma :

TUG · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2007 Karma :

Nothing says I've crashed it and I'm cheap more than matt black! Also you can't clean it properly petrol will eat through it like a fat kid and a chocolate cake. I was going to rattle can my ER-5 but because of reasons, I'm just going to send the panels off to be sprayed in Yam pearl white and save myself the hassle, there is a place by me that is relatively cheap so why the fuck not. Laughing

Jokes aside, whats wrong with having the ding filled in, then etching primer 2 coats, then spray away, smooth off with wet and dry then lacquer, smooth that off for a nice shine, I'm led to believe this is the correct way, however I may (and probably) be incorrect.
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matto · Crazy Courier Joined: 18 Apr 2012 Karma :

I used satin black Plasti-kote paint for my Pegaso. Haven't had any problem with the odd drip of fuel and the paint went on lovely and smooth.

MartZ0r · Nova Slayer Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Karma :

if your worried about petrol etc you ideally want some 2k clear coat you can get these in cans too, look up Spraymax. has an activator in the bottom of the can for the hardener. Good stuff i used it on my last two bikes.

Phil D · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Karma :

0l0dom0l0 · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Karma :

I'd sand back the rust to bare metal and the rest of the paint back so all the dents and scrapes are out. Then fill all the bumps and scratches and re sand. Then prime and you'll probably find some more pin holes so do the same again.

You might as well go for something that will look half decent when done. Even a gloss black would be good, although gloss paint is a bit of a nightmare. Really you want to spray the paint then sand it back to get a key and lacquer with a petrol proof lacquer. Once lacquered to get a good finish you need to cut back and polish.

Not using a lacquer is just a waste of time. If you've done all the prep the hassle of painting, the lacquer is the easy bit in terms of the time it takes. If you do it properly you shouldn't need to touch it up.

Otherwise if you don't, you'll forever be 'touching it up'.

Painting is one of those things you do once and do properly. After you've sanded, prepped and attempted to paint something once you'll understand why. It takes forever and is just easier to do properly once.
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Intruder_Andy · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Karma :

My r attle can paint job

Before
https://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy72/photo_w87/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0198.jpg

After
https://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy72/photo_w87/Mobile%20Uploads/20140723_073831.jpg

Petrol will cause havoc with Halford tins (I know) and their lacquer is wank. Wouldn't resist a heavy shower let alone fuel but good results can be achieved however it is costly and time consuming.

Andy