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CurtisBowden
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 06 Jun 2014    Post subject: Honda MTX Trip Reply with quote

Hi guys,
Coming up to 125 time, and I want your guys knowledge and opinion!

I would like to put discs on my MTX, and would like to know what I require. I know I can do it by getting new forks and swinging arm, but any other ways?

Also, what colour and graphics (if any) should I have! Need some ideas.

Let me know lads, I will keep this up to date with photos.

First photo -

https://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh616/Brushless-Monster/9d303e80-2b1a-4e48-87e9-096ece2597bc_zps3041d172.jpg

It looks faded, but it's the sun Smile


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PostPosted: 19:30 - 06 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if I can fit hydraulic (probably not) let me know. I do not minding changing wheels!
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 06 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have to change the whole front end. Forks, wheel, brake caliper, brake line brake lever, master cylinder. Do-able, but not cheap. But a well set up drum brake should be reasonable. Maybe not.

Graphics...can't help you.

If you do do it, keep the original stuff, getting rare now, may be worth something, try not to butcher anything if you can.

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PostPosted: 08:41 - 07 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mtx only had drum on the back the front can be changed for a later mtx
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 07 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Service the drums and you'll find they're as good as any discs, tbh.

As for colour and graphics, you'll want to keep it an original colour scheme if possible. That way, when you step up to a big bike licence you'll have an asset worth selling, and a queue of misty-eyed, middle aged blokes reminiscing about their teens who'll want to pay far too much for it. If you restyle it to something that you really like the only people coming to buy it will be those with identical tastes to your own.

TL;DR Keep it original and reap the rewards when it's time to sell.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 07 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure some of the KMX stuff fits, so if you could get the yokes to fit , get a whole kmx front end, but you will need to trim the kmx swingarm down each side to fit in the MTX frame, its defeinetly do able.

As others said, make sure you keep the original bits, these bikes go for good money in good condition!

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PostPosted: 14:04 - 07 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd save the hassle and just get an 86> MTX front end. You can re-build the forks and braking system and then fit the lot on yours. It's not worth trying to make KMX stuff fit unless your sitting surrounded in KMX parts, have loads of time, and access to machine tools etc.

The rear MTX drum, is a good brake when serviced and with new shoes correctly adjusted etc. You don't need a disc on the rear and it won't give you a better brake afterwards either.

If your wanting a rear disc for looks, again I would not bother. It's going to be hard to make an MTX look like a modern dirtbike, and they look great as they are. The std swingarm with the snail cam chain adjustment is in a way better than the KMX's set up.

Nice classic bike, just keep it clean, maybe replace/repair any plastics/paint, and enjoy the way it looks.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 08 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for all the help lads. I am now looking at the newer MTX wheels and forks as I want the alloy wheels for a bit more wheely-ing fun.

Will keep you up to date!
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 08 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No this one is a hard question Very Happy

I am looking at lower fork protectors, like these...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORK-GUARDS-HONDA-CR125-95-07-CR250-95-07-Available-in-Black-Red-04-White-/200925444072?pt=UK_Helmets_Headwear_Goggles&hash=item2ec816f7e8

I thought these may fit as they are from a early CR125.

Could someone let me know?
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 09 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They won't fit, that year CR 125 has USD forks, the later MTX's still have conventional. 50cc.net sells fork guards for normal forks, and sell a lot of parts for larger smokers, not just mopeds. But they are based in Sweden, so I would only suggest buying them if you had a bulk order as well.

Edit; you could fit them, but you'd need to cable tie them on or something, would very bodgy.

Something like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIGHT-FORK-GUARD-15-HONDA-CR125-1985-/121293754222?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c3dabcf6e

I bought a bunch of stuff for my MT5 here:

https://50cc.nl/

I'm actually trying to fit some MTX125 RWD Forks onto my moped ATM, I managed to pick up the whole front end including yokes for £45, Just need to have a test fit then see if it's worth it or whether I should sell them on. My quick measurements look like it should work.

EDIT 2: DO you want something like this? These are for right way up forks, a KDX200, but maybe Kawi green would clash with a Honda. Laughing

https://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag134/Fladdem/_14_zpsb9d8ec5d.jpg
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fladdem wrote:
They won't fit, that year CR 125 has USD forks, the later MTX's still have conventional. 50cc.net sells fork guards for normal forks, and sell a lot of parts for larger smokers, not just mopeds. But they are based in Sweden, so I would only suggest buying them if you had a bulk order as well.

Edit; you could fit them, but you'd need to cable tie them on or something, would very bodgy.

Something like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIGHT-FORK-GUARD-15-HONDA-CR125-1985-/121293754222?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c3dabcf6e

I bought a bunch of stuff for my MT5 here:

https://50cc.nl/

I'm actually trying to fit some MTX125 RWD Forks onto my moped ATM, I managed to pick up the whole front end including yokes for £45, Just need to have a test fit then see if it's worth it or whether I should sell them on. My quick measurements look like it should work.

EDIT 2: DO you want something like this? These are for right way up forks, a KDX200, but maybe Kawi green would clash with a Honda. Laughing

https://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag134/Fladdem/_14_zpsb9d8ec5d.jpg


Yeah I would be interested if they would fit! I am not too fussy over colour as I could repaint etc
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also what tooth rear/front sprocket do you guys recommend? I'll be taking her long distances on motorways and want it to cruise at 70/80 nicely. Any chance of that?
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hardly an ideal bike for long distance motorway use, but I think the full power 20bhp version of the MTX managed about 75mph in top on std gearing, (about 10mph more than the 12bhp uk spec). If it's anything like the KMX125 it's probably touching the red-line by then, but a +1t on the front sprocket is probably as high as you could go in terms of the bike still being useable and without ruining the acceleration too much?

I'd say 65-70mph is a more realistic cruising speed, and with the poor aerodynamics of a trail bike your likely to be pretty much at full throttle at 70mph+ all the time except down hill or with a tailwind.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would not do low cc 2 stroke + motorway.
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CurtisBowden
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 02 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
It's hardly an ideal bike for long distance motorway use, but I think the full power 20bhp version of the MTX managed about 75mph in top on std gearing, (about 10mph more than the 12bhp uk spec). If it's anything like the KMX125 it's probably touching the red-line by then, but a +1t on the front sprocket is probably as high as you could go in terms of the bike still being useable and without ruining the acceleration too much?

I'd say 65-70mph is a more realistic cruising speed, and with the poor aerodynamics of a trail bike your likely to be pretty much at full throttle at 70mph+ all the time except down hill or with a tailwind.


It's not standard, 1mm big bore, straight through exhaust and what not. At the moment it wheelies really well, almost too well Very Happy It's bigger sprocket on rear than standard I believe. I don't mind spending money on her, because I love it to bits. New air filter? As the standard box is on it etc.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now looking into 1992 CR 125 wheels and forks to use so I can have disc brakes.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 03 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the CR125 shocks will fit?
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 05 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone???
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I have found a set of forks from a CR. 1990-96, picking up later on this week.

https://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh616/Brushless-Monster/10515028_307111666122590_947173908_n_zpsbfeab9ab.jpg

Will put a video up on youtube when they are all set up.
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