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 alexanderfitu Nitrous Nuisance
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 Posted: 09:05 - 11 Aug 2014 Post subject: Replace fuel tap with straight hose connector |
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Hi all
I have a big leak on the fuel tap of My XJ600 diesel bike.
Im sure the main reason is that the rubber in the seals isnt compatible with Veg oil (most isnt) and its disintegrated, leaking fuel all over my primary belts
It seems as though nobody makes a repair kit either, so I would like to replace it with a staight 8mm hose connector.
Any ideas on how to go about it, I could try and undo the tape assembly and see if there is a way to seal off the tap sections, but the leaking issue would still be there. |
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 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

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There are numerous XJ600 fuel tap repair kits listed on ebay.
I would imagine most modern seals will now be made to be ethanol proof which is more likely to be oil compatible too.
There are a lot of XJ600s out there but most of the taps I've found by googling seem to attach to the tank via a flange.
So, to fit a hose-tail you'd need to replicate this flange. I'd suggest the easiest way would be by drilling three holes in a rectangular block of aluminium. Use the original tap as a template for the hole positions (maybe need to slightly countersink the inside of the two screw holes where they meet the tank if there is a raised area there).
The middle hole can be drilled and tapped to accept a hose-tail.
I would suggest a 1/4" BSPT male to 5/16" ID Hose fitting. That means you'd need to make your middle hole 7/16" (11.2mm) and tap it using a 1/4bspt tap.
The taper thread is self-sealing. I'd use a thick gasket under the block cut out of either cardboard, viton rubber or (going modern and ratty at the same time) a silicone baking sheet. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 alexanderfitu Nitrous Nuisance
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| stinkwheel wrote: | There are numerous XJ600 fuel tap repair kits listed on ebay.
I would imagine most modern seals will now be made to be ethanol proof which is more likely to be oil compatible too.
There are a lot of XJ600s out there but most of the taps I've found by googling seem to attach to the tank via a flange.
So, to fit a hose-tail you'd need to replicate this flange. I'd suggest the easiest way would be by drilling three holes in a rectangular block of aluminium. Use the original tap as a template for the hole positions (maybe need to slightly countersink the inside of the two screw holes where they meet the tank if there is a raised area there).
The middle hole can be drilled and tapped to accept a hose-tail.
I would suggest a 1/4" BSPT male to 5/16" ID Hose fitting. That means you'd need to make your middle hole 7/16" (11.2mm) and tap it using a 1/4bspt tap.
The taper thread is self-sealing. I'd use a thick gasket under the block cut out of either cardboard, viton rubber or (going modern and ratty at the same time) a silicone baking sheet. |
Hm not a bad idea. All of those listed where for Diversion 92> mines a pre diversion 91, im not sure if the taps are different. Couldnt find anything that would say they are the same.
I like that idea, I think its the best. Try and replicate the flange with a thick enough piece of Ali, I will take the tap off again tomorrow and see what the hole looks like. Maybe be easy enough?
The other option is to gut the tap and just seal it off completely, then use a seperate tap further down for when I need to remove the tank. |
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Quick thought though.
Why do you even need a fuel tap on an engine that doesn't have a carburettor?
I mean if it runs out of fuel the injectors will just airlock and cause headache anyway, so a reserve is pretty much useless. The vaccum petcock side of things is again, useless as the whole thing would work on an injector pump that won't be moving any fuel unless it's rotating - there's nothing there to flood, no floats etc.
Seems like costly arseache to find and fit a largely pointless component unless I'm missing something? ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Many thanks Keith, I phone them yesterday and ordered a rebiuld kit from them.
I had a closer look, seems to just be leaking between the tank and the tap seal. Hopefully its just that! Thanks all. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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