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EazyDuz
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 17 Jun 2014    Post subject: beer can stove Reply with quote

Anyone recommend a good guide for a beer can stove? Seems like the most compact method for bike camping. Unless there's a ready made stove/gadget out there with similar size?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 17 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the best one I've seen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8t3pivqtk
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 17 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamikaze Bob wrote:
This is the best one I've seen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8t3pivqtk


I only came across that one about a week ago and I agree, it does seem to be quite a decent stove for not much effort, particularly the way the creases are done to create the jets.

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Unless there's a ready made stove/gadget out there with similar size?


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trangia-Mini-Trangia-Cookset-Spirit-Burner/dp/B000LN7HUC
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 17 Jun 2014    Post subject: Re: beer can stove Reply with quote

Search for 'spirit burner', 'meths burner' and similar.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191200713144

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201021517940
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PostPosted: 05:23 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide you want to make one, have a look here :-

https://zenstoves.net/Stoves.htm
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The penny stove design is very efficient and effective but takes a bit more making.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/summer%202009/pennystove.png

If you're using a meths burner like that outside, you NEED a windshield of some sort.

I personally like my Borde stove for motorcycle camping. A little bigger than a meths burner but will work well in the wind and doesn't need me to carry extra fuel, just a tube to siphon it from the tank. Hard to get hold of one though and they are expensive. Takes a wee bit of fiddling to get the hang of using one.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice ideas will have a brwse thanks
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also where is the cheapest place to buy meths or that other alcohol stuff from?
Wickes have 500ml of meths for 3.49, is that cheap? Never bought any!

Saw this wood gas stove too, looks pretty easy to make:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxODae_BS74
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like beer can stoves a lot but I have given up on them, meths is just too bloody expensive.

I've adapted my 2 stoves to run on the 227 gram (spray paint-rattle-can size) containers, I buy 4 cans for between £5 and £7 quid.

Cheap stove and gas option:

These are pretty good https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outdoor-Picnic-Portable-Camping-BuyinCoins/dp/B004U8CP88/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403087809&sr=8-1&keywords=camping+stove+picnic+burner




Tripod adapter to screw the stove onto: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270931952841?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Butane : https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/cartridge-220g-self-seal-4-pak-p152342


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PostPosted: 11:03 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
Also where is the cheapest place to buy meths or that other alcohol stuff from?


Meths is about £20 for 5 litres delivered off ebay.

Isopropyl alcohol is about £15 for 5 litres off ebay.

No brainer there then. Isopropyl is better if you use the 99% stuff because it has a higher energy density. The flames are slightly dirtier but you need less isoprop to boil the same amount of water. It's cheaper, cooks quicker and you use less.

You might run into problems with isoprop in very cold conditions. Meths too. If it's sub-zero, you need to insulate the alcohol stoves from the ground or they wont light.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. I dont think ill be camping enough to justify a big bulk supply of meths really.
With a can stove, how much meth would it take to say, do some pancakes, brew a coffee or 2 and make some dinner?
Id probably have 2 stoves going at once
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get my 5L of meths at my local farmer shop. Can't bring myself to pay 3.50 or so for a tiny pissing 500ml bottle at B&Q or similar.

5L lasts me years, and costs about 16 quid or so, plus its generally handy stuff to have around for general cleaning/degreasing etc.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamikaze Bob wrote:
This is the best one I've seen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8t3pivqtk



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PostPosted: 17:16 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I made the can in the vid. It worked, but took a good 17 minutes to boil a fucking egg. And even then it wasn't hard all through. Is that just the limitations of the design?
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A cheap compact gas stove https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Foldable-Portable-Outdoor-Picnic-Gas-Stove-Burner-Propane-Camping-Hiking-/400454180249?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5d3ceddd99
of for the spirit burner fraternity, (my preference) try the Klickstand
https://www.clikstand.com/index.html
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
So I made the can in the vid. It worked, but took a good 17 minutes to boil a fucking egg. And even then it wasn't hard all through. Is that just the limitations of the design?


What did you boil it in, how far from the flame front was the pot, how much water was in there?
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
EazyDuz wrote:
So I made the can in the vid. It worked, but took a good 17 minutes to boil a fucking egg. And even then it wasn't hard all through. Is that just the limitations of the design?


What did you boil it in, how far from the flame front was the pot, how much water was in there?


Smallish kitchen saucepan about 7inch diameter rested on top of the stove with enough water to cover the egg by an inch.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, 3.5" radius, 3" depth? Think that makes 115 cubic inches, or about 1.8 litres? Or is my maths fucked?

I can boil 250ml using a penny stove in 3.5 minutes if using an aluminium kettle, 4.5 minutes if stainless steel. At that ratio, it would take 25 minutes to boil 1.8 litres, so 17 minutes seems OK.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you use a lid?
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Did you use a lid?


No, that may have helped. Seems to get through the meths quite quickly but it seems to be the smallest and most efficient method.
Might have a pop at making the wood burning one too
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
So I made the can in the vid. It worked, but took a good 17 minutes to boil a fucking egg. And even then it wasn't hard all through. Is that just the limitations of the design?


Maybe you should buy medium or small eggs.


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PostPosted: 18:48 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found the penny stove pretty effective - seem to get better 'jets' with that - but not tried the method in the linked video.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
Seems to get through the meths quite quickly but it seems to be the smallest and most efficient method.

If all you want is a cuppa, then a tealight candle holder, drinks can, small baked bean tin and alcohol hand sanitiser is quite small Smile
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liking the tea candle stove Shaggy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 18 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
Liking the tea candle stove Shaggy Thumbs Up


It's more for amusement - as linked up top, when I'm on my own I use a mini Trangia.
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