Advanced riding - way better then stand up comedy?

[Val]

I am really starting to like all this Think Biker/IAM/RoSPA joke. It is way better then stand up comedy. Like the promo facebook picture today with the instructor on the wrong side on the road. And do not tell me he has better visibility, because its still funny

https://i59.tinypic.com/f0rjau.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/THINKBIKER/photos/a.471168368469.263386.330193933469/10152769364448470/?type=1&theater
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[Marmalade]

It's a left hand bend, he's on the right to get a better view, I don't see the amusement.

I personally wouldn't do either of them, I only ever see them as high vis wearers who only ever ride to improve their riding rather than riding for the purpose of riding.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Looks to be round a left hand bend on a narrow B/C road, so yes he would have better visibility.
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[ScaredyCat]

[fozzym]

I think going on the wrong side of the road only gives other road users ammunition to say bikers are dangerous (rightly or wrongly).

I can't see the need to cross to the other side of the road unless you are wanting to travel at a greater speed than the road can take. Fair enough for emergency services but for general users I suggest slowing down a bit. And I get the better visability thing but from what I've seen it's definitely used in conjuction with speed.

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[Val]

do not get me wrong guys I do not have a problem to move on any part of the road. You know the saying Good guys go to heaven. Bad boys go wherever the f.ck they want

What I found really amusing is some group of people preaching some road behaviour that supposedly will make the ride safer. The matter of the fact is these are pure fantasies and if you want to be safer do not go there. The problem which really annoys me is a lot of people start to believe this and do thing which are anything but safer. There are plenty of evidence on recent crashes that riding near centre line is not safer what about on the other side.

Its fine to take risk but do not pretend it is for the "greater good". Have I cut corners on twisty mountain road? Yes. Do I see better and ride faster because of this - sure. Do I pretend that I am "advanced" rider and do it so that I " am making progress" on the road. Hell no. Is it safer? Of course not
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[mentalboy]

We have 'one way' roads in Devon that look like that! (But I can see your point as this is promo material that all road users may see and not necessarily understand why a bike would be on the far side of the road)
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[Rogerborg]

[_Iain_]

Fuck doing the IAM courses.

Would rather spend the money on petrol and figuring stuff out for myself.
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[ScaredyCat]

Do you actually end up with discounts on insurance if you're IAM or RoSPA, or is that just a myth or even just a token gesture saving?
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[bamt]

With RoSPA in the car I could only get a saving with expensive companies - so still costing more than just shopping around. It might make more of a difference if you have higher premiums to start with.

[Islander]

[G]

Val;
As others have suggested; 'wow'.
Yes, if you decide to go on to the other side of the road because you've been told it "makes you safer", then you're going to have big problems and it certainly doesn't make you an 'advanced' rider.

If, however, as a part of a system which ensures you give yourself maximum time to react to potential situations so they never become more than 'potential', which can include being on the other side of the road, then the title is justified. There's a big disparity beween those two.

[ScaredyCat]

[G]

As I say 'YMMV' .

[cheeseman]

Why not pop along to your local IAM club Val and say you're interested in joining and would like an observed ride (this was the way YAM operated, others may vary). You'll be under no commitment to join up and then you'll be in a better position to come back here and have a good laugh. Cheaper than paying for a night out at the local comedy club!

Just saying...

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[Marmalade]

I use the whole road, it is usually while travelling at a decent speed.
It gives me a better view of what is ahead, where the road is going and who else is there, if something is coming, you move over, if you can't see if something is coming, move over anyway.

I've managed one crash in 26 years and well into a million miles, that was due to circumstances involving me giving it a fist full on a straight but extremely shit road in very shit weather, using the whole road works for me.
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[JP7]

It looks to me like the guy at the back is the observer. Perhaps he's moved his position to watch what the guy at the front is doing? It might be as simple as that.

But to be fair, we can't see the road behind the photographer so we can't really comment too much on why he chose the position he did. I highly doubt he would be there if it wasn't safe.

[WD Forte]

I'd swing out like that on rural roads to have a look to see
what/if anything is coming
That looks like the back road into Hobbiton and I've met manys an inbred farmers son
driving like a retard on roads like that
Forwarned is forarmed

It isnt really fair or helpful to judge anybody on one lousy pic anyway
Think of the children!
Some of these IAM type guys can be up their own arses I know, but I take an eclectic view and
if they say summat I think is sensible and useful, I take it onboard
If I find it OCD and nit picky I dont.

Ultimately, we're all only as good as our last ride
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[WD Forte]

I recall going to Hendon Police training college years ago as part of driving instructor
training.
I recall feeling quite excited and interested in learning advanced techniques
What a let down !
All I remember the coppers saying is words to the effect of
"we're fucking brilliant, you're all poofter scum"
I got no sense of sharing knowledge and techniques, just boasting.
Couldn't get out fast enough.
Hopefully they've changed.
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