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 Posted: 09:50 - 24 Sep 2014 Post subject: Biker Research - Ideas Wanted |
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Hi all,
This may seem a little odd, but my inner researcher is missing doing proper, worthwhile work, and I've decided to do something bike orientated - and I'm looking for your input. It's been waaay too long since I've had a paper published.
What research do you think the biking community would benefit from the most?
I'm thinking something orientated around bike safety, but should this be a re-look at the most common reasons (it's been a while since this has been done), an exploration of the efficiency of protection, a look at where our accidents happen most often... or something else? Or something completely different? The idea behind this only came to me about ten minutes ago, so I thought I'd turn to a community where the input would be relevant.
Also, would you be willing to take part in a survey or something, once it's been put together to help me?
If anyone out there wants to give me a hand, the more the merrier
Thanks guys,
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Deffo Hi-Viz.
There has been a complete lack of discussion relating to the benefits of dressing like a bin man whilst riding a bike
People will deify you for researching this, trust me  ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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 map Mr Calendar

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| Matt B wrote: | Deffo Hi-Viz.
There has been a complete lack of discussion relating to the benefits of dressing like a bin man whilst riding a bike  ... |
*cough* 18 years ago now, but still done - see Motorcycle rider conspicuity and crash related injury: case-control study. Conclusion, yes it is a benefit.
Perhaps could do with an update as hiviz now widespread (can even get the likes of dog coats) so is the impact (no pun intended) less, more or the same. i.e. Do people still see hi-viz (and reflective luminescence) clothing?
Or in the spirit of OP post can research (you know, lies, damn lies and statistics) prove commuting by motorcycle is cost effective, environmentally friendly, kind to kittens, benefits business and not as dangerous as some would have you believe. I'm just talking commuting here, not your weekend warrior, my bike is a playtoy or look at the chrome on that Harley shine brigade. ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
Gibbs, what did Duckie look like when he was younger? 
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 Posted: 10:50 - 24 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: Biker Research - Ideas Wanted |
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| map wrote: | Leg protectors. Trust me, the biking community will love you for it  |
Oh, they'll be mandated by Ze Germans the EU anyway.
https://i59.tinypic.com/2rwni28.jpg
OP, the question that I have for you is the same one that I have when I'm asked to do anything: what's the point?
What power do you have to affect the real world?
What quantifiable changes will result from our responses?
If you're just "writing papers", why not just invent whatever data supports the conclusion that you want? Non hypothetically. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Posted: 11:01 - 24 Sep 2014 Post subject: Re: Biker Research - Ideas Wanted |
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
OP, the question that I have for you is the same one that I have when I'm asked to do anything: what's the point?
What power do you have to affect the real world?
What quantifiable changes will result from our responses?
If you're just "writing papers", why not just invent whatever data supports the conclusion that you want? Non hypothetically. |
There's two reasons for it: one, I'm bored and miss researching and writing - this is something close to my heart. And two, if no one does anything, we cannot make a difference. My research alone will not change regulations, but it will heighten awareness. And if it's something relevant to riders about topics such as protection, it will help them make informed decisions. If it's related to road statistics, then it will (potentially, results pending) reinforce the notion that car drivers just don't see us - numbers can be hard hitting - and it can be used as a starting point to make some changes somewhere to regulations or training. If we don't try, we will never get anywhere.
Having been knocked off my bike by a car, who went into the back of me, not only am I aware that car drivers see right through us, but I know my gear saved my life, and my injuries were no where near as bad as they could have been. That's why I thought about the protection route - it's good to have facts, not opinions, to inform our decisions when buying, or not buying, something which could minimise damage.
I'm not having a go, and I appreciate that you were willing to question my motives and what I hope to achieve - and I would appreciate more of the same if the discussion goes further. |
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| FiBob wrote: | Having been knocked off my bike by a car, who went into the back of me, not only am I aware that car drivers see right through us, but I know my gear saved my life, and my injuries were no where near as bad as they could have been. That's why I thought about the protection route - it's good to have facts, not opinions, to inform our decisions when buying, or not buying, something which could minimise damage. |
I'm glad you added the "not buying". It was beginning to sound like you were essentially on a mission to supply Eurotards with a mandate to issue blanket legislation requiring officially approved safety gear at all times, something I've been fighting since the Eighties. ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 193 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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