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 Posted: 18:49 - 01 Oct 2014 Post subject: Get Geared Leeds - Two year old+ parking charge |
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Good evening BCF,
I received a letter today demanding the sum of £275 for parking at Get Geared in Leeds over two years ago.
At the time in question I had parked my bike (long since sold on) in a marked bay, went into the store, bought some tyre plugs, exited the store and then visited on foot the J&S store which is directly over the road.
When I returned approximately 5 minutes later, I found a parking charge notice demanding £60 or else stuck on my petrol tank by a company called UKCPS.
I went straight back into Get Geared and spoke with a staff member who assured me it would cancelled.
Two years plus change go by without hearing anything further and this drops through my letterbox:
https://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u587/mjs1066/20141001_192128_zpsbac3d49d.jpg
Initial Googlings indicate these letters have gone out en masse to motorists around the country.
As I understand it the law recently changed so wiping my arse with it then posting it back is no longer the standard response to such barefaced Jewing money out of people and some sort of reply in writing needs to be made.
Can you guys offer any advice? I think going back to Get Geared tomorrow and asking them to intervene might be a good place to start?
Thanks in advance for any advice. ____________________ Previous Bikes: 2006 Honda XR125L > 2003 Yamaha DT125R > 1996 Honda CB500
Current bikes: 1997 Kawasaki ZZR 600 E5 > 2006 Honda Varadero XL125V |
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#1 PePiPoo
#2 Have fun with it. I'd go with this response as a template. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| Llama-Farmer wrote: | Argue that you weren't just boozehawking it |
Again: why would you do that?
I'll cut to the chase: the onus is on them to show that there was a contract, the exact terms of it, and how it was breached. Oh, and also who they are, their relationship to the landowner, and their standing to initiate an action for breach of contract.
It's not up to the OP to start listing all the things that he did or didn't do in case they might happen to be relevant.
PePiPoo. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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| Ste wrote: | I'd also be contacting the Get Geared just to try and get them on side as well, not that it'll make all that much difference if the car park policing is contracted to an external company but it can't do any harm. |
What matters is the land owner, which could be any or none of the shops. It's unlikely to be the parking ghouls but if it goes anywhere you will want to find out as they should be able to instruct the ghouls to cancel proceedings.
Oh, as money is being made from that "free" parking area, the local council planning and rates boards might very well be interested if you want to stir a bit. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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As above goto pepipoo and post a link to your thread back here.
They seem to have got you for leaving the car park.
FWIW there was a landmark judgement about that (I didn't see Rogerborg post about it, he may have done in the past). It appears the parking company has to have the agreement of the shop(s) to impose the fines.
Anyhow, see here and here for an overview of the story.
It was also mentioned in this thread with a pdf of the judge's comments. Worth a read
As it was 2 years ago I'd think the law changes don't apply.
Also IIRC that car park serves a number of shops. Two years ago might even include Hein Gericke (when did they go bust, resurrect and die again?). This parking company would have to have had agreement from all of them
HTH
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The judge's comments are absolute gold. Judge tells the representative for the parking control company that she can't pursue any such cases on flawed premises and adds:
"If there is another case in the Scunthorpe County Court, Grimsby County Court or Hull County Court live by four pm on Friday, you will be coming to see me and I suggest you bring a toothbrush. Am I clear?"
And then:
"If you have issued proceedings and you have obtained judgments and those judgments are flawed, you have got to set those all aside. Not a good day at the office, is it? Do you wish to say anything else?"
Classic!
I suspect he was not amused by the arrogance of the company turning up in court without even a qualified solicitor to represent them. ____________________ Kawasaki KMX200 with broken fixed powervalves and a stutter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 179 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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