Help & FAQs    Search BCF    Members    Groups    Events Calendar
Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


1st Gear Trouble

 Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Dave M
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 03 May 2013
Karma :
PostPosted: 00:28 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: 1st Gear Trouble Reply with quote
Right, now I have a problem with 1st gear. In early mornings I don't let the bike warm up as it's a little too noisy and there are a lot of old nice people on my street, it wouldn't be fair on them. Anyway, I roll the bike back and turn so I'm facing slightly downhill on my driveway, start her up, select 1st gear and she struggles as if the gear hasn't engaged fully. I always give it a sharp tap down to get into 1st as I've been told this is the best way! So, I have to flick it up to 2nd asap to get her going. After that she's spot on. This only happens on my drive when I'm facing down a slight hill. It never happens on the flat or even uphill? Could this be related to my previous post which I have just updated? See link below. Cheers for any help!

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=296191
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 09:25 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: 1st Gear Trouble Reply with quote
weedave wrote:
struggles

Define, please.

Revs rise but the bike doesn't move? = clutch cable is slack, springs are soft, plates are on the way out.

Bike lurches when the gear is engaged? = clutch cable needs tightened or clutch is binding a bit from cold - which is fairly normal, just be ready for it.

Engine hesitates while pulling away? = Nothing to do with the gears.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Taught2BCauti...
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jan 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:31 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
After reading your other post, I definitely think you have a problem with the clutch plates. The 'burning clutch' smell is quite distinctive, and the fact that the problem is worse when facing downhill, when there is probably more oil in the clutch area, suggests you need to remove the clutch cover for a closer look.

I wouldn't just replace the friction plates though, whilst you have everything apart, replace all of the plates, and the springs too, and double-check the basket for wear or damage - to be sure of a thorough job!
____________________
Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
www.TheFutureIsHere.eu
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Dave M
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 03 May 2013
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:19 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: 1st Gear Trouble Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
weedave wrote:
struggles

Define, please.

Revs rise but the bike doesn't move? = clutch cable is slack, springs are soft, plates are on the way out.

Bike lurches when the gear is engaged? = clutch cable needs tightened or clutch is binding a bit from cold - which is fairly normal, just be ready for it.

Engine hesitates while pulling away? = Nothing to do with the gears.


Hi. Sorry. The bike hesitates when pulling away in 1st. Should also have said I've just put a new clutch cable on. When I put cable on I had to wind the handle bar adjuster nearly all the way out to tighten it. This doesn't seem right to me? I've just had an op today so I will be readjusting the cable when I'm back to normal. Anymore advice appreciated. Thanks.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Dave M
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 03 May 2013
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:22 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Taught2BCautious wrote:
After reading your other post, I definitely think you have a problem with the clutch plates. The 'burning clutch' smell is quite distinctive, and the fact that the problem is worse when facing downhill, when there is probably more oil in the clutch area, suggests you need to remove the clutch cover for a closer look.

I wouldn't just replace the friction plates though, whilst you have everything apart, replace all of the plates, and the springs too, and double-check the basket for wear or damage - to be sure of a thorough job!


Ok I've been looking at friction plates and springs but wasn't going to change steels as I was under the impression these wouldn't new changing. I'll take your advice on board and give it a good inspection. I have a service manual so I can refer to that. Thanks for advice.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 20:35 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: 1st Gear Trouble Reply with quote
weedave wrote:
When I put cable on I had to wind the handle bar adjuster nearly all the way out to tighten it. This doesn't seem right to me?

Depends. I had to do the same on the Enfield's replacement cable - proudly Made in Britain... Rolling Eyes

Hesitates when pulling away in 1st when cold? What makes you think that's a gear / clutch problem rather than fuelling, or brakes binding? I mean, does it rev but not move?
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Dave M
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 03 May 2013
Karma :
PostPosted: 22:42 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: 1st Gear Trouble Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
weedave wrote:
When I put cable on I had to wind the handle bar adjuster nearly all the way out to tighten it. This doesn't seem right to me?

Depends. I had to do the same on the Enfield's replacement cable - proudly Made in Britain... Rolling Eyes

Hesitates when pulling away in 1st when cold? What makes you think that's a gear / clutch problem rather than fuelling, or brakes binding? I mean, does it rev but not move?


Do you mean clutch slip? No it won't rev either. Just get enough to change up to 2nd. It seems fine then.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 11 years, 221 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
 You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 
Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.12 Sec - Server Load: 0.94 - MySQL Queries: 14 - Page Size: 55.08 Kb