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PostPosted: 13:30 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: CBR900 Rear Shock woes & advice Reply with quote

Carvel rode my bike at the weekend and pretty much confirmed what I already thought, the shock has seen better days. It's particularly bad first thing in the cold, it can crash over certain types of bump, but does seem to ride the road fairly well normally. Being a slightly Rolling Eyes better rider than I, he noted that it just wasn't right.

I bought this bike very cheap and it hasn't really cost me much in a year, I ride it most days and it will never be a minter. I want to sort the rear shock, but the cheapest new shock was about £250 for a.n.other branded sports shock (I think this was gas, no reservoir). Secondhand shock is a waste of time and money, might end up with the same or worse. Considered rebuild, but these aren't really designed for rebuild, which means sending somewhere and probably costing at least half the cost of the new.

Any other options/suggestions? If it was a mint bike, I'd buy a new shock and be happy, but £250 is a quarter of what the bike cost me.

CBR900 RRW (I believe the shock was the same on RRT to X)
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plump for a Branded one, you're essex way from what I remember, Hagon in Hainault do one for £300 Thumbs Up

If you want cheaper risk some SH ones other wise that is the best option IMO.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: Re: CBR900 Rear Shock woes & advice Reply with quote

wots wrote:
...Considered rebuild, but these aren't really designed for rebuild, which means sending somewhere and probably costing at least half the cost of the new....

Sounds about right, If it's £250 ballpark new, Brooks list it as £120 (+ extra if parts needed).
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual everything is extra, so no matter how reputable they are, they've got your shock and can insist on certain extras being required. Just a couple of things there would push it way above £250 Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Had one of these baby's, on and off for the last twenty years(!), my only keeper. I've rebuilt this one up from a frame and engine.
The rear shock is, as you say, pretty much a sealed unit and, as you say, anything S/H is very likely going to be as bad.
Given that your shock is not a corroded mess, I take any suspension stuff to:-



Kais Suspension Services Ltd.
Punchbowl Garage
Atherton
Greater Manchester
M46 0LT

Tel: +44 (0) 1942 896366
Fax: +44 (0) 1942 886311
E-mail: [email protected]

They rebuilt mine for £130 a few years ago so might be more and there's postage too. BUT, they remake them to be re-charchable easily, unlike the originals and I can garauntee that the difference is quite amazing.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 31 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is another consideration, the shock has top and bottom bearings, yes? These would come with a new shock, so I wouldn't have to source separately and if it's the same ones as I found, that's another £40. Making the replacement seem all the more attractive. Or am I, as ever, talking nonsense?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 01 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR900RR-Shock-Absorber-Rebuild-Repair-Service-/170951016257?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item27cd797f41

for £135 all in I don't think you can go wrong
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 01 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I may have something sorted, thanks to someone on here, watch this space.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, all sorted, obtained a secondhand one that had only been on a bike for a couple of K after being replaced with a Maxton item. It's in perfect condition. I've paid a fraction of the rebuild cost, so I'm happy.

Hopefully I can fit it next weekend, it looks dead easy, as I've got an Abba stand so It should be easier to fit.

Just need to find the default settings, I think it's one turn off hard.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to make a point. You will need to suspend the back of the bike from a hoist or similar. Once you take the shock out there is nothing holding the bike up.... Or am I stating the bleeding obvious?
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
Just to make a point. You will need to suspend the back of the bike from a hoist or similar. Once you take the shock out there is nothing holding the bike up.... Or am I stating the bleeding obvious?
See above, I have an Abba stand. It locks into the swingarm pivot point, in any case if I was desperate I have the adapter kit for removing the swingarm, so I think I'm good!
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, I was stating the bleeding obvious!

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PostPosted: 17:40 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although, I did use a chunk of wood between tail unit and tyre when I had my shock out on the ER6, however that is offset and a piece of piddle! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are making the effort to replace the rear shock,it would not take too much more to have the swing arm and linkage out and to clean/grease the bearings.Especially if you have not done them before.

As you say,it helps big time that you have an Abba stand with the right adapters Wink
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already ten steps ahead of you Very Happy

As it happens, my fireblade has a black frame, which was sprayed by a previous owner. I managed to bag a swingarm on eBay which had been powder coated black and never fitted a couple of weeks back for £25. Glad I got the Abba adapter kit, for just such a scenario. It actually looks fairly straightforward to do.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the linkage bearings and spacers that were my main thought.The ones on my R1,although they were only 2,200 miles old,that were corroded

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/BikesBikesBikes346.jpg

This was quite a shock to me.But then it did underline the fact that bike makers do not use much grease on assembly.For whatever reason,it does look as though no grease was used at all,so I caught it just at the right time.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
This was quite a shock to me.
Pun intended?
I'm looking at all of it whilst there, it would be a shame to fix the shock and find I have play somewhere else!
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 02 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pun intended.


But now that you mention it Wink
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 03 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything I've missed? Davidsilverspares are excellent!

1 x 91072MR7003P - Swingarm pivot ball bearing (GBP 6.75) - GBP 6.75
1 x 91071MR7003P - Swingarm pivot needle roller bearing (GBP 7.95) - GBP 7.95
1 x 91202MR7003 - Swingarm pivot needle roller bearing dust seal (GBP 2.95) - GBP 2.95
1 x 91262KV3831P - Shock absorber pivot bearing dust seal (GBP 1.95) - GBP 1.95
1 x 91072KT7003P - Shock absorber pivot bearing (GBP 8.95) - GBP 8.95
1 x 52463MALG00 - Shock absorber pivot bearing collar (GBP 3.95) - GBP 3.95
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just arrived, it's absolutely mint condition, extremely happy.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 04 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Is that the shock that was only used for 2k miles ja Question It's certainly had a good clean up Thumbs Up
About 4K I believe, but it's spotless. Very little damage to the spring paint, which is usually a dead give away, a couple of tiny chips in the paint where it may have been resting anyway. Very little discolouration on the metal pieces as you can see.
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