Are there any modern widowmakers?

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I'm thinking bikes, obviously.

With all the health and safety, emissions, EU regulations, testing, etc. I can't think of any modern bikes that would earn the reputation of widowmaker.

Only semi-recent two that springs to mind are...
(1) the TL1000S. I believe poor reliability and handling issues made it unsafe.

(2) of all things the ST1300 in plod guise with it's deadly wobble at speed caused by the way it was loaded.

Any others, preferably more recent?
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[chris-red]

Most Chinese bikes.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

ZX6R B1H. I'd like a steering damper please mr saleman.

'98 R1, just because.
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[Itchy]

ZX-10R, the 04 version.

The bike shop opposite an audit I did once tried to convince me to buy one. It had no steering damper, it was crazy quick and shook its head like crazy when accelerating hard. It got to licence losing speed on the slip road sooo soo so quickly.

The 2004 had a design flaw in the wheels as well which means if it hasn't been fixed it can shatter.
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[Keir]

I currently have a b1h and I don't find it that bad really.

the 08 ZX10r I had on the other hand was positively frightening.
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[JAMSXR]

As above the 04-05 zx10r always had a mean reputation.

I think the biggest animal from the current crop of superbikes is the 1199, even with all the rider aids it's a handful - with a 2t power band and 190bhp. It sounds like the 2015 models will have much improved driver aids and be far more manageable, but less rewarding when you get it right.
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[stinkwheel]

I have also heard things about the ZX10R from someone who is one of the top three fastest and most competant motorcyclists I know.

To quote his review "Fuck my dog!" and "Get away from it! It'll fucking bite you!".
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[davebike]

Compared to you bikes when I was young and stupid everything now days is great handling

But the roads / traffic makes up for it
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[Vracktal]

990 SuperDuke, no ABS, Traction Control, steering dampener, very choppy throttle that likes to lunge mid corner, plus the front brakes had a habit of binding solid to the rotor at speed and without warning.

They're getting few and far between now because so many have ended up in bits.

I'd still have one though.
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[chris-red]

Didn't someone on here fuck one up the rode?
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[CHR15]

gen 2 rsv mille without a steering damper.

hilarious vacuum operated slipper clutch that just doesn't work.

very basic fuel injection, the throttle is like a light switch.

if it was raining id rather take an r1 out.
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[Chuffin Nora]

What with upon being made aware of the prices of OEM spares and the resultant bang to the back of the head after falling over backwards…

well . . .

Every feckin bike?

[69.9mph]

DAS + any race rep sports bike?

[27cows]

Nah. Even the original Widowmaker was nowhere near as lethal as the smaller H1A.

I see these midlife crisis dickheads on 350LCs they've paid thousands for harping on about the danger! And think...the 350LC was a positively civilized bike compared to the 70s strokers.

Don't even think about stuff like the Z1300 - they were fat and slow but fuck my old boots, they were dangerous if you tried to hustle them round the twisties
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[evoboy]

Only one I can think of is the '04 ZX10.

Genuinely an untameable animal.
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[MC]

Not a widowmaker but I do see a lot of crashed Street triples on eBay
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[G]

For Yamaha; 98 R1/99 R6, for Suzuki; TL1000S, for Kawasaki 04 ZX10, 03 ZX6, For Honda; oh, wait, no.

None of them are really THAT bad from what I've seen/ridden - just that if you properly push them in questionable conditions or are particularly ham fisted they may bite back a bit. More like 'fun' than 'scary' .

The 990 Duke is supposed to be 'interesting'.

Apparently even the KTM200 (the real one, not the 4-strokes-of-excrement) has got a bit more low down grunt these days.

[Fisty]