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PostPosted: 12:41 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Car related: Focus mk1 alternator woes Reply with quote

For the second time this year, the alternator on my focus has a whiny bearing.

The first time round I replaced it with a reconditioned one. It has lasted about 7k and is now whining again.

Is this indicative of another problem? The belt and tensioners seem fine. Should I have replaced them too?

Before I go and spunk £80 on a new one, is there anything else I should look at first?
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried gagging your OH to eliminate extraneous noise? Razz

More seriously, can't you just replace the bearing?
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned - Aux Belt too tight can cause bearing noise and rapid wear.

Also, overheating (possibly due to a battery fault) can cause bearing grease to cook-off.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
As mentioned - Aux Belt too tight can cause bearing noise and rapid wear.

Also, overheating (possibly due to a battery fault) can cause bearing grease to cook-off.


Hmmm. You may have a point there re: battery fault. Whilst I never have trouble starting, the lights are too flickery for my liking at idle. I'll investigate with the multimeter.

Re: replacing the bearing, I'm going to try that first as I still have the old alternator.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 25 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aux belt can't be overtightened in theory,i uses an automatic tensioner.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, with a recon alternator you are not buying a 'new' product so it could quite easily have shat the (old) bearings in it within 7000 miles. That's the luck of the draw.

Secondly, unrelated but on a Focus make sure that you are using a calcium battery. Fords of this era have smart charge alternators which see the battery peak charging hit 17v. Hence why a normal lead acid battery will die quite quick and it will also cause strange electrical issues too.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.yuasa.co.uk/info/technical/silver-calcium-batteries/
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long was the replacement alternator off the original car before being fitted to yours?

Could be that it started to seize ever so slightly hence the noise.


Otherwise I'd say its probably belt tension.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
If it's not the belts, maybe the recon people are using shite bearings - 'wouldn't be surprised. Replace with a decent one.


This seems most likely to me.

Can you see what bearing they used?
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
Vincent wrote:
If it's not the belts, maybe the recon people are using shite bearings - 'wouldn't be surprised. Replace with a decent one.


This seems most likely to me.

Can you see what bearing they used?


No idea. It was an unfitted spare bought by someone else on eBay, it was £40. It's provenance is unknown, but it was immaculate when I bought it. It was too cheap at the time to not give it a go.

I can't find anything in the service history to suggest when the battery was replaced. It's dark and rainy outside so I'll find out some more tomorrow eg, if it's Calcium. That's not the first time I've heard that Matt.

As for the belt itself, as No Blade says, it's an auto tensioner.

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PostPosted: 21:20 - 26 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry too much about using calcium batteries,I've always had Fords and never used one,batteries last in excess of 6 years,last one about 10 years,just a normal exide 3 year one.
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