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PostPosted: 19:38 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: painting swingarm with hammerite paint! Reply with quote

So, the time has came where the swingarm on the zr7 was looking sorry for itself. With buying a car and not having metre deep pockets filled full of money I decided to use hammerite "smooth" silver paint. I decided on this because I felt using the brush will help keep the paint where I want and 2, it was cheaper.

Here are before pics:
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I removed the hugger and used drill attachments to remove the loose bits of paint, rust and dirt. I then used muc off and turps to clean it (I am telling you all this and I am well aware the majority of you could do this job much better than me). I have managed to paint one side of the swing arm and then it got dark! Will do the rest next week as it is raining for the rest of this week. Here is the current state of the swing arm with one side painted.

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PostPosted: 20:00 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly looks better

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PostPosted: 22:25 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done the same myself as a quick fix for rust etc before powdercoating and over a year later it still looks good Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

robertw95 wrote:
Done the same myself as a quick fix for rust etc before powdercoating and over a year later it still looks good Laughing


Did you apply it with a brush or a spray?

I must admit, I am actually pleased with how it is looking!

I only made this thread as I searched all over the internet for a painted swingarm that was done using a brush rather than a spray and couldn't find one anywhere.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't you paint the inside?
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvel wrote:
Why didn't you paint the inside?


This looks like another case of, I couldn't take the wheel off. Smile
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvel wrote:
Why didn't you paint the inside?


if you read the original post you would have noticed that it isn't finished. Rolling Eyes

sheesh, some people, eh?! Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 08 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Carvel wrote:
Why didn't you paint the inside?


This looks like another case of, I couldn't take the wheel off. Smile


very true Razz although I didn't attempt to take the wheel off in the first place!
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 09 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CX and some other Honda swinging arms rot like fuck
and many folk were ranting on about getting them powder coated
I've repaired quite a few an found they mostly all rot from the inside out
and the outer coating isnt nearly as important as what's happening inside.

After repair, I drilled strategic holes and flushed mine with oil before painting and they've lasted for years with little sign of further corrosion.
I found Plasticote very good BTW, I was told Hammerite tends to chip easily.
Not sure if true but I went of Hammerite a while back anyway
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think hammerite changed formula (like everything...) I have some very old stuff, and some new - the old stuff goes off much harder and more chip resistant. The new stuff isn't all that bad, but it does seem to take a month or two to get anywhere near what the older stuff is like after a day.

Dotts, remember what I said about getting a decent amount of paint on the tyre and chain for the full-on "painted by brush in the dark by a chav" look Wink
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem of doing one quick application of Hammerite is that the instructions on the tin suggest doing a second coat within a short period of time in order that the hardening process works correctly.

But then it does look better than it did.

I used the same paint when restoring a DT125LC2 a few years ago and the person who bought the bike said it looked like I had sprayed it on instead of being applied by brush.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a lot better, but you'll need to keep on top of it.


One thing I have noticed is that the new formula silver paint isn't brilliant. Despite being "direct to rust", it doesn't really seem to stop the rust, and doesn't hide it all that well either.


I used some on the edges and centre of some car brake discs, and it only lasted around 6 months before the rust was showing through it quite noticeably.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DottyDuck wrote:
robertw95 wrote:
Done the same myself as a quick fix for rust etc before powdercoating and over a year later it still looks good Laughing


Did you apply it with a brush or a spray?

I must admit, I am actually pleased with how it is looking!

I only made this thread as I searched all over the internet for a painted swingarm that was done using a brush rather than a spray and couldn't find one anywhere.


Im a painter by trade what I done was mixed turps and the hammerite 50/50 and brushed it after all sanding cleaning etc was dry within 2 hours then a normal coat and its held up well
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdg wrote:

Dotts, remember what I said about getting a decent amount of paint on the tyre and chain for the full-on "painted by brush in the dark by a chav" look Wink


I was also thinking that getting paint on the brake disc will help reduce braking distance. And obviously, getting it on the tyre will help with grip, especially in the wet!

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PostPosted: 19:31 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the replies Thumbs Up I am hoping it will last and if it does chip atleast i can just repaint that part.

I have finally managed to do the other side and do a second coat on the left side. Here are pictures of the way it currently looks:

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It won't get paint job of the year but atleast it looks better and will protect the swingarm from any further rust!
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DottyDuck wrote:
atleast it looks better

Lol
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvel wrote:
DottyDuck wrote:
atleast it looks better

Lol


sarcastic comment off Carvel: Check Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've done more good than harm Thumbs Up

Snip the tails off those cable ties though! My OCD can't handle it.... I can send you a pair of scissors for price of postage if it helps Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just_James wrote:
You've done more good than harm Thumbs Up

Snip the tails off those cable ties though! My OCD can't handle it.... I can send you a pair of scissors for price of postage if it helps Very Happy


Thanks James Smile and lmao they are there to hold the cable up as they run on top of the swingarm Smile once the paint is done I will take them off completely. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be painting the adjuster bolts or wheel spindle either.
Gonna be a pain when it comes to chain adjustment.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris the spider wrote:
I wouldn't be painting the adjuster bolts or wheel spindle either.
Gonna be a pain when it comes to chain adjustment.


No more than it would be if they were coated in rust. A lick of paint on the outer surface of a bolt/nut doesn't exactly require a huge amount of torque to overcome.

Not to say I would have painted them, far from it - I'd have removed all parts, blasted and sanded as necessary then primed before spraying or powder coating etc etc... But as a quick and simple tidy up job and some preventative measure for rust.... more good than harm done Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the inside of a pair of chromed mudguards with the silver hammerite. Can't tell you how shit that paint is. My prep was scrupulous and although the paint went on reasonably well, it was coming off within weeks. Might as well have applied melted chocolate. Really wish I'd used the black version now. In the end I just smeared them with very thick grease, which has done the job. I just whip 'em off and reapply every so often, depending on how much wet riding there's been. Obviously you can't really go down that route with the swing arm - but let me ask this question; have you been using ACF50 on the there as a barrier and preserver? Cos that might help. But if you're going to be relying on the paint alone I'm not at all optimistic. I think there are better anti-rust paints, e.g. POR 15 products, or Rustoleum, which iirc are American.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

no offence, but I think it looks fecking awful... I have a personal hatred for things that have been painted without masking/removal.
Nothing looks worse than a motor that's been painted in one lump without removing the engine bolts.


Take some time, remove things and rub it down, it will look like new if you take your time and do it properly.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Dotty, paint on the chain, nut, axle...? Smile
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris the spider wrote:
I wouldn't be painting the adjuster bolts or wheel spindle either.
Gonna be a pain when it comes to chain adjustment.


As James said, I can't imagine it would require much more effort to loosen them. To be fair, I am never strong enough to undo the bolts anyways so I get someone to loosen it for me. Embarassed

@Trevor I thought you can't use it on chrome? I do use ACF50 on the bike but never thought of putting it on the swingarm. The paint was/ seemed decent, after summer was when the weather started taking its toll.

@Steveh- none taken Thumbs Up Believe it or not, I have spent a bit of time cleaning the swing arm. The idea is to get it powder coated in the winter as I will probably not use it that often and won't be relying on it as my main mode of transport. To be fair, the main purpose is to stop it rotting through. It isn't the prettiest job but I am pleased with how it has turned out.
@Rhyno- I should have moved the bike forward to have that part of the chain covered Wink the condition of the nut looks terrible so it was paint it or not bother! could maybe paint it black?! lol
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