Kymco Pulsar Base125 bodgineering thread

WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

My lads looking at cheap fixer upper to get him mobile as relying on public transport and bicycle has hampered some good job prospects.
having personal transport will open up opportunites

its as above, a Kymoco Pulsar 125, '09 plate
in need of a cam chain
I'll be taking a look at it tomorrow

I know sweet FA about Kymcos but as its single cylinder 4 stroke
( CG clone?) looks pretty simple to me

Any idea on its value and what to offer considering the knackered cam chain and battery?
I'll have a better idea of condition tomorrow but want to have ball park figure in my head

TIA
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wr6133 · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Karma :

Parts not listed here

https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/bikes.php

or here

https://www.china-parts.co.uk/

So personally I wouldn't, plenty of cheap copy bikes floating about that the above 2 well established suppliers sell parts for.

(and I know Kymco... Taiwan... etc, etc.... they have a massive factory on the mainland I'd bet that's where the cheap bikes are made).

Iain. · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 04 Dec 2014 Karma :

In good running condition with no camchain issues it's worth about £400-600 depending on cosmetic condition.

Gaskets are a bit expensive & it'll be mega ballache.

I'd be looking to pay no more than £100-150.

PM me an email adress and I'll send over a copy of the engine microfiche, use this to send me back a list of part numbers you think you'll want and I'll price em up for you with some BCF special discount Thumbs Up

WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Iain
OK ta, done it
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

I have no idea what to expect but its only up
the road and won't have any dosh in my pocket to avoid rash spending spasms.
'Needs cam chain' could mean many things so I'll put me cynical head on.
A snapped chain could be a FUBAR'd engine
A longtime badly worn chain could be an engine full of alloy mush which has ferked up the bearings, many CXs suffered like this.
A 'tippety tappety' chain could just mean new chain and guides but
I'll assume its been owned/neglected/trashed by a teenager unless I see evidence to the contrary.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

https://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews60153.html

Bit mixed.

If I were looking for a no-surprises bargain, I'd be after a pushrod CG-copy engined bike.
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BigShow · Spanner Monkey Joined: 01 May 2014 Karma :

Brace yourself for the deluge of people telling you to buy something Japanese instead, or to save your money for the DAS.

This will then be followed by a lengthy debate on Indian/Chinese production quality. Then to round off a smart arse will pipe up and 'remind' us all the YBR is Chinese.
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As for your question: It's probably better to get something that doesn't need any work. If it's got things wrong with it then who knows what else has been neglected. Unless you can get it very very cheap.

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Aceslock · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Dec 2014 Karma :

If it is fubar, you can always pop over the bridge and buy my Skyjet Mr. Green

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Polarbear · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :

I'm sure you can get something reasonable and without issues for not a lot of cash if you are buying chinese. Yes, I know Kymco is Taiwanese but it's still chinese enough without the parts support that the chinese enjoy.

I just wouldn't buy if there are issues.
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Well we got it for £50 on the assumption the engine's fubar
as the rest of the bike is in very good nick.
Pics soon.
I'm currently stripping it down and if the engine is beyond economical repair, will probably shoehorn a CG type lump in.
I've always had old bikes and resurrected and mixed and matched manys an old thing, so fixing up a simple bike like this is easy work compared some of the previous challenges.
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Polarbear · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :

Fair enough.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Could probably weigh it in for that. Thumbs Up

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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Mirrors, seat, tank and a lot of the plastic parts removed and stowed safely.
Engines out, heads off and can't see any catastrophic damage
(so far)
Will remove valves and check them soon to see which one got a clout.

At this point my theory is, the cam chain wasnt tensioned well,
slipped and threw the valve timing out
I can't see any obvious visible damage to the piston or valves though.
The bore looks perfect with no scratching or gouging from debris

I've got a bad feeling about this.
Its all to easy, it came apart so easily and quickly
nothing seized or rusted, rounded off nuts
the only stuck one was the CS screw holding the tacho cable in
I'm not used to easy jobs.
taking pitchers as I go, will post when I pack it in for the day
I know you cant wait.

Now look, I know you chaps like a good laugh and all that but
please no more unkind comments about my shitty old bikes and chinese crap OK?
You know it upsets me and me mum says if you make cry
and I start wetting the bed again she won't let me on here anymore.
thanks
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Here's the bike on arrival
Sprocket rusty but not welded !
Pink lady stickers are stayin !

https://oi59.tinypic.com/b4unnd.jpg
engine and stuff removed
https://oi59.tinypic.com/33p9hzc.jpg
Piston
https://oi57.tinypic.com/2wcqo2t.jpg
Valves
https://oi62.tinypic.com/2l8gqib.jpg
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Iain. · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 04 Dec 2014 Karma :

Show & tell thread - "The £50 bike" Laughing

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Subframe is... no, I've got nothing.
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WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Yep, its turned in to that
how do I get it moved?
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Shaft · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Karma :

I know a dealer that's been around for aeons and switched from Peugeot (and another more mainstream franchise that I can't remember) to Kymco a couple of years back; he thinks they're great, better than what he was selling before and he didn't need to tell me that, he knew I was trade and he wasn't going to be selling me one.

Just for balance.
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