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 Posted: 22:21 - 26 Jul 2015 Post subject: Keep Mac book pro or Windows laptop? |
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I have a lenovo flex 2 14 inch. I5 4210u (1.7 GHz, 2.7 GHz with TurboBoost, 3 MB cache), 6gb ddr3 and a 500gb sshd 5400rpm.
The woman has a 13 inch Mac book pro mid 2012. I5 processor 2.5ghz (3.1 with turbo boost), 4gb ddr3 ram and a 500gb 5400 hdd.
She doesn't use her Mac. Im Getting back in to photography. Will be used for editing 24mp raw images in light room and photoshoot (torrent copies).
Never had a mac although they obviously have a reputation with editing. My laptop feels faster although it's currently being repaired under warrantee for the 2nd time (keeps randomly becoming unresponsive and then crashing and failing to restart. It's had a new hdd but I'm hoping they swap the memory next.)
Do I upgrade the mac with more ram and a sad?
Do I canabalise mine and stick the ram and hdd in to the mac the sell mine?
Just sell the mac?
Sell both and build a tower?
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The Apple OS is about 35-40% of the price of a Apple device. Do the math.
Might be less, the marketing and branding also cost money of course. I mean the real value of the HW on the market vs. the price of a Apple device using that HW+their OS.
4GB of RAM in the Mac, is more than it will ever need, so more RAM wouldn't make it any better actually. A ''tower'' PC is the best way to go. It's the cheapest solution with the best price/performance ratio.
Also, more RAM does not necessarily mean better overall performance. There are 2 options, you've got enough of RAM or not enough of it.
EDIT: I missed the bit about 24mp pictures, but still, selling it and building/getting a desktop would be the best way to go. CaNsA says Phil's got something you could look at. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Are you on crack Rhyno?
| RhynoCZ wrote: | The Apple OS is about 35-40% of the price of a Apple device. Do the math. |
No, current version Snow Leopard currently costs £14.99, nowhere near 40% of the price of a macbook
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Might be less, the marketing and branding also cost money of course. I mean the real value of the HW on the market vs. the price of a Apple device using that HW+their OS.
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It is less, far less in fact.
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4GB of RAM in the Mac, is more than it will ever need, so more RAM wouldn't make it any better actually.
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4GB in a mac is barely enough to run an OS, I just changed Mrs from 4 to 8GB just for doing some stats work and office stuff. The OS alone needs nearly 3GB of RAM, It's ludicrous how much RAM is used by OSX.
4GB of RAM on a decent OS, is still short on running lightroom and Photoshop with 24mp raw files.
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A ''tower'' PC is the best way to go. It's the cheapest solution with the best price/performance ratio.
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Not always, there are plenty of laptops capable of doing this work. Many photographers also do work on site, where a tower is really not going to help.
Plus, photo editing is really not very hard on the CPU, so not much heat will be generated where towers have the massive advantage in cooling.
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Also, more RAM does not necessarily mean better overall performance. There are 2 options, you've got enough of RAM or not enough of it.
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4GB in a Mac isn't enough to type a word document about how wrong you are.
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Sure sure, so Mac users know it's crap, yet they are buying it. Am I missing something? I stand corrected, I have never thought Apple got that far, that it needs 4GB of RAM to just run the OS. Win 7 and 8, 8.1 is pretty alright, for the basic stuff with, only 2GB (2x1024MB) of RAM. Once again, you might say I'm mental, but I tried it and it was alright for the office work and the internet (7, 64bit).
Now looking at what Apple sells and the basic models do have 4GB of RAM and the prices are as mental as I recall them.
Don't tell me a laptop bought for the same money you'd put into a desktop has got the same performance though.
Also when I said enough or not enough of RAM, I was not really aware of someone would actually run an OS that its minimum requirement was 4GB of RAM. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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4GB in a mac is barely enough to run an OS
4GB in a Mac isn't enough to type a word document about how wrong you are.
Groove, don't take advice from somebody that still runs Vista with the belief that it is a decent OS  |
| Quote: | Yosemite required 2GB RAM to run and same will apply for its successor. |
MacWorld or lihp.... Hard choice.....
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And here arrives the mac fanbois. Who must strongly oppose any suggestion that Apple is not the fantastic product they market it as.
My £200 HP laptop boots in to Win 8.1 and opens Word, quicker than my Mrs £1200 MacBook Pro with fresh install.
There is nothing on my Mrs MBP apart from, SPSS, Stata, Office and iTunes. Yet it still constantly hogs memory.
Amazing that a mac support site suggests to run applications in 32-bit mode. Never had to do that with Windows.................
When I get to the laptop again, I will post up a screenshot of the memory usage with it just on the desktop.
OS X, really has lost all its advantages over the recent versions. And you spend half the time hoping that an update doesn't render your expensive products useless. ____________________ covent.gardens: lihp is my most favourite member ever |
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Probably shouldn't have bothered asking
I'll see what real world performance is when I'm at a stage to edit a file on both machines. I'll pick the winrarrrr that way. I'll then decide what needs upgrading.
I would probably prefer to keep a laptop. Saves me being confined to the bedroom when I could be lounging on the sofa.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 45 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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