Motorhispania Furia 50

Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Hi All,

Just become a new owner of a Motorhispania Furia 50 ...

Couple of questions,

It seems that the front and rear light are not working when i flip the switch up one ... but when i did it twice the full beam comes on the front but still nothing on the black.. though the brake light is working fine.. so the bulbs must be OK?

Does anyone know what the issue could be ? Checked the cables and everything does look OK..

The speedo is not working also, the seller told me that it just need the speedo gear cog replacing, but when i unscrewed the speedo cable i could not see any cable of any sort in the sheath ? Is there any instructions around what shows how to replace the gear in the speedo drive?

Lastly, it seems that there is a 2 to 1 cable going from the accelerator, one goes to the carb, the other does not go anywhere, but i think it needs to go into the top of the right hand side of the engine casing, what is this for ? I can supply a picture if need be.

Does anyone have an owners / service manual available so I can look into everything in more depth?

Thanks for any help in advance.

lukehanham · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 19 Feb 2015 Karma :

For the rear light:

The bulb on the back actually has 2 lights inside of it, one of them may be blown, replace the bulb as one of the elements in the bulb has gone. Thats for the back light at least.

There is a cable that goes from the front wheel up to the dashboard on the bike, check this is plugged in properly, if it is and the speedo does not work, the cable may need replacing.

As for the cable going from the throttle, it could be that someone has just stuck a throttle from a 4 stroke onto the bike as these use two cables where as most 2 strokes have one cable, it is nothing major to be worried about.

You can buy most spares for this bike in Europe from here;

https://www.adrenalin-pedstop.co.uk/cp-Furia_50-5189.aspx

Just_James · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 29 Aug 2014 Karma :

Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Hi again.

Managed to have a quick look today, seems that the cable has snapped.

I managed to quickly put together a bit of a bodge on the cable until I can order a replacement (where's best to order other than eBay anyone ?)

The first picture is the location with no cable, second picture is with the cable attached but no revs - notice it is higher because the quick fix has made the nipple bigger so cable doesn't sit in as much - would this be ok ? Or is putting 2 much oil in at lower revs bad ? Then lastly on fill revs. What do you guys think. Is it ok to ride like that until I get a replacement cable or shall I wait and replace the cable first ?

Thanks.

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

That oil ump setting needs to be accurate. If you can't set it accurately, at least make sure it's running too much oil rather than too little. You need to get the right cable then find a manual to confirm how to set it. That pump looks to be getting rusty too.....no cover?
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Just_James · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 29 Aug 2014 Karma :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/T-F-L-throttle-cable-coated-Motorhispania/dp/B00ANLEBO2

Fair play for having a go at fixing the cable but as said above, it needs to be accurate.

Another thing to consider is whether or not the previous owner knew the cable was snapped?

If so then hopefully he would have been running it on premix in which case you're best emptying the tank and starting with fresh fuel when you start using the oil feed again or you're going to have running issues.

Once you've fitted your new cable, undo that pozidrive screw (above your solder in the last pic) until oil comes through to make sure it's bled.
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Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Thanks for the replies.

I will try to find out off the seller if he was running premix ... If he wasn't will there be any long term damage ? I guess it all depends on how long it has been running without ?

If I used the current cable I would of thought it would be running too much oil, there is a cover for the pump also.

So when I undo the screw, oil will come from that screw ? I don't need to do anything else like put revs on etc ?

Regarding the manual I don't suppose you know where I can find one ? Have a look around but not found anything yet.

Cheers.

Just_James · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 29 Aug 2014 Karma :

If it's been run without premix, yes there will be damage but to what extent is anyones guess depending on how long it's been run like that etc.

Main thing is that you've caught it before it's seized if nothing else. You could do a compression test once it's sorted but if it's running fine you might as well just keep running it really.

Yes, oil will come from that screw. Don't need the bike running but you might have to open the throttle a little.

If you want to check that it's set right, you need to clean the area up a bit and you will see a line that needs to line up with the one on the pulley.

Heres a pic of one of mine

https://i62.tinypic.com/10h0u1e.jpg

You shouldn't need to make any adjustment to it with your new cable on though unless its previously been messed with
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Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Really appreciate the help and the picture.

Yeh the engine sounded fine when it was running and I turned it off fine. It's not like it died or anything so hopefully not too much damage. The bike still seemed to pull well.

I've ordered a replacement cable so when that comes I'll get it fitted and make sure it lines up. Will also remember to prime the 2 stroke oil pump.

Once I've sorted that I'll then look into the original problem of speedo and lights Razz

PS. I have noticed there is like an oil cap on the engine casing also ... Does the bike need engine oil aswell as the 2 stroke oil ? As far as I was aware the 2 stroke oil was all it needed. Or have I got that wrong ?

These little 2 strokes sure are fun !

Cheers.

Just_James · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 29 Aug 2014 Karma :

The cap on the casing is for gearbox oil.

The 2 stroke oil lubricates the top part of the engine (piston and stuff), gearbox oil lubricates the bottom part (gears and cogs and stuff) Smile

The 2 stroke oil gets mixed with fuel and burned off during the combustion process so will regularly need toping up and is a 'consumable' (why environmentalists no likey? Confused

) but the gearbox oil just sits there in the bottom of the engine swilling around lubing stuff. It doesn't need regular refilling like the 2 stroke oil but it does deteriorate over time and gets contaminated etc.

With the bike being new to you, you're as well to drop the gearbox oil and replace it for peace of mind if nothing else, only costs a few quid.

AM6 workshop manual says to use SAE 75W-90 but that's probably thicker than necessary (especially if bike is deristricted), I generally put cheap 10W 40 in mine.
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Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125

lukehanham · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 19 Feb 2015 Karma :

On a 50cc, put 10w40 into the gearbox, Fuch's Silkolene is very good and costs around £10 for a bottle of it.

I tried 40w90 once in my bike and it only causes the gearbox to have issues.

Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Thanks guys - silly me how could I forget gearbox oil.

Yeh I'll dump the old stuff out and replace with some 10w40.

How much oil does it take ? Can I get hold of the AM6 workshop manual for future reference ?

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Unscrew the filer cap and see if it has any level marks on. Be careful not to strip the thread on the drain plug.
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Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Hi All,

New cable fitted and all is well Smile

Also, lightts and speedo all back working.

Unscrewed the gear oil cap but no marks in regards to how much to put in ?

Thanks.

Just_James · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 29 Aug 2014 Karma :

Glad you got it sorted Thumbs Up

IIRC the AM6 takes 850cc of gearbox oil
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Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125

Pea · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Karma :

Thanks.

Am I right in saying that it just be re filled with standard 10w40 motor oil then?

Also can't see a drain plug under neath but there is a screw in the side of the casing ?

Thanks.

JoshT · Derestricted Danger Joined: 31 Jul 2015 Karma :

Nice to see someone else posting recently about the MH Furia. I've just got my son a Peugeot XPS a Furia in different colours Wink