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 Jayy Mr. Ponzi
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 Posted: 18:14 - 13 Oct 2015 Post subject: Reg Plates Legality / Exhaust Heat Issue |
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https://i.imgur.com/eRRcOhM.jpg
Right, I just fitted a tail tidy kit (indicator unit not fitted in this photo) and the plate mounts really close the the big exhaust loop directly behind it.
This is a very American thing the way the plate mounts down there as I ordered this kit from America (Indicator unit & plate mount). My understanding is, they mostly use metal reg plates over there?
My only concern is when I got back and touched the plate, it was stupidly hot, to the point that I could wiggle the plate and it felt like jelly.
What is the actual law on plates (other than legal size), i.e. Do I have to have that yellow reflective surface on the back? Can I get a metal plate made up? |
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That link says they are as long as they meet the relevant legislation. |
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 Jayy Mr. Ponzi
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Interesting read, seems that you can use metal plates as long as they meet them standards.
A guy a few posts down mentions there's specific rules for where to mount a plate as well, I wonder if mine is legal or not?
Going to all this effort only to have a 7x5 plate, which isn't legal anyway But in saying that, I have been riding around for years with 7x5 plates and never been pulled up about it. |
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There's all sorts of stupidly detailed regulations about what reg. plates can be made of.
Including how much spring and deflection they have when supported on one end with a weight on the other.
Long story short. Metal can't possibly comply. It either premanantly bends too easily or is too stiff.
Nothing saying what you put behind your plate though. I'd suggest a piece of silicone matting. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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So anyway I was sitting behind a Maibatsu CockThruster pickup today sporting a tiny plate completely devoid of BS AU 145d mark or maker's info, with a bold hexagon background and miniscule mostly hollow letters spelling out "L6 FKR" or similar and in conclusion you're massively over-thinking this. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Here's a road legal metal one for bikes https://r.ebay.com/7CN7RP ____________________ Current bike: K1100RS. Previous: CD200, GSX250, GT550, VFR750, K100LT, K1100LT, R1100GS, R1150GS, ZZR1100, Hayabusa, RSV Mille, MV F4 750S, R1, ZX-10, KTM Adventure 950S |
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Unfortunately. Like many things on ebay. It's not what it proports to be. That is not a legal plate.
It would be legal if already fitted to a motorcycle manufactured before a certain date which I can't be bothered to look up (but go pre-'65 and you can effectively tip-ex it onto the back mudguard).
It's not legal as-is for either fitment to a modern bike OR as a replacement numberplate. Has to be retroreflective. Effectively has to be perspex/polycarbonate (because they're the only things that conform to the material specifications) and must have the makers name and postcode displayed across the bottom fo the plate.
What they have there is a "show plate". Something most makers of such things have enough common sense to advertise them as.
There will be other issues ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Unfortunately. Like many things on ebay. It's not what it proports to be. That is not a legal plate.
It would be legal if already fitted to a motorcycle manufactured before a certain date which I can't be bothered to look up |
From Jan 1st 1973 it has to be for all intents and purposes the same as a modern plate, except for the type-face regulations which apply from 1st September 2001.
I suspect the DVLA and the British Standards people would take a dim view to anyone slapping BS AU 145d on a piece of ally with what most definitely is NOT the 'standard character font'.
That said, I doubt plod would stop you for it, unless ANPR was upset about it. Keep a copy of the Ebay page to hand though, afterall if you do get shafted you may as well take them down with you.
Here's the joe public friendly leaflet (as supplied to me by plod)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4jjtgf66aarnf5/number_plates_dg_067666.pdf?dl=0
and here's the Sir Humphrey Appleby friendly low down
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/pdfs/uksi_20010561_en.pdf ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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Why not do a vinyl sticker then stick that onto a bit of sheet metal. Job done. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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