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PostPosted: 12:01 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it the same fuel thats been sat in the carbs for 2 months?

Drain the old and put in fresh fuel would be the first port of call.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike often goes 4-5 months without starting. Have never had a problem with fuel going off.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You did turn the fuel tap back on - assuming you may have turned it off before laying it up?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Help. Reply with quote

1) Workshop.

2)
Kal-El wrote:
my bandit

Your Bandit what? 600? 650? 1200?

3) Is it running on all cylinders? Does it sound like any cylinders are giving up before the rest of them?
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
My bike often goes 4-5 months without starting. Have never had a problem with fuel going off.


neither have I, but okums razor, and all that.

it could be many things, but if you know you have good fuel to start with, that's the biggest common factor covered.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

selling you say. drop me a pm if you do
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bandit 600.

Ok, just tried again.

It turns on, stays on as long as the revs are up. Had the choke on for a few minutes. But the second it goes off it doesn't start again. But if I was to try again tomorrow, it will start up and same thing will happen again.

Looking to get it sorted and sold before I'm off to the US for me holidays!
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it will not start again after it stalls, or do you mean it will not run without the choke..

my guess is not enough fuel getting through due to clogged something or other
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly not the best, or most technical, suggestion.

If it's been stood, stuff may "glaze" over. If you start 'er up with the choke, for a minute or so, then keep the revs up and turn off the choke, will it keep running?

If it does keep running, I'd be minded to try and ride it down a quiet road, revving the nuts off it, trying to pile fuel through the carbs and decoking anything somewhere.

Now, that is hardly technical but that's what I'd try.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Help. Reply with quote

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Help.

The most hated thread title ever.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it stink of petrol? Could be flooding the carbs due to a sticking float?
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Help. Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Kal-El wrote:
Help.


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PostPosted: 22:22 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Help. Reply with quote

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(not least of all because it makes me start singing old Beatles songs)



And now I can't get rid of this song either Laughing

Seriously guys make next title more detailed like:

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an in-line fuel filter on the bike?
If it was sitting any shit in the tank could have gelled in the matrix.
Fit a new filter and try.

If it starts and then runs down it's a sign that it's starved of fuel.
Once it stops fuel can trickle through any blockage to re-fill the float chamber again.

My money if on blocked fuel system.

I don't know of fuel getting 'old' but I do know fuel filters plug is there is no regular flow through them.

You can try to by-pass any fuel filter and direct feed fuel via a bit of hose from a fuel can. If it's only a gravity feed then it should prove disprove a fuel blockage. Without having to gut the fuel system.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 07 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Is there an in-line fuel filter on the bike?
If it was sitting any shit in the tank could have gelled in the matrix.
Fit a new filter and try.

If it starts and then runs down it's a sign that it's starved of fuel.
Once it stops fuel can trickle through any blockage to re-fill the float chamber again.

My money if on blocked fuel system.

I don't know of fuel getting 'old' but I do know fuel filters plug is there is no regular flow through them.

You can try to by-pass any fuel filter and direct feed fuel via a bit of hose from a fuel can. If it's only a gravity feed then it should prove disprove a fuel blockage. Without having to gut the fuel system.


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PostPosted: 16:47 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharpe2002 wrote:
so it will not start again after it stalls, or do you mean it will not run without the choke..

my guess is not enough fuel getting through due to clogged something or other


It will stay on choke for a while but will slowly decrease in revs and turn off. Then it doesn't turn on until tomorrow or after a significant amount of time has passed.

MCN wrote:
Is there an in-line fuel filter on the bike?
If it was sitting any shit in the tank could have gelled in the matrix.
Fit a new filter and try.

If it starts and then runs down it's a sign that it's starved of fuel.
Once it stops fuel can trickle through any blockage to re-fill the float chamber again.

My money if on blocked fuel system.

I don't know of fuel getting 'old' but I do know fuel filters plug is there is no regular flow through them.

You can try to by-pass any fuel filter and direct feed fuel via a bit of hose from a fuel can. If it's only a gravity feed then it should prove disprove a fuel blockage. Without having to gut the fuel system.


You may as well be talking chinese to me as I'm quite the noob when it comes to mechanics.

I guess I could try changing the air filter. See if that works.

I called up a local mechanic and he said it could be the carbs that need cleaning. (He said £200 minimum to fix it :/)

Do you think it could be the a2 restriction that caused the issue?

Can someone in London or around the kent area come and fix it for me lol, will give you £50 for your troubles.

I've spent more on the bike than I bought it for. Before next summer comes, i'm getting a ducati 696 or any newer bike that I know won't break down. My R125 would sit for ages and the only issue would be a dead battery.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal-El wrote:
sharpe2002 wrote:
so it will not start again after it stalls, or do you mean it will not run without the choke..

my guess is not enough fuel getting through due to clogged something or other


It will stay on choke for a while but will slowly decrease in revs and turn off. Then it doesn't turn on until tomorrow or after a significant amount of time has passed.

MCN wrote:
Is there an in-line fuel filter on the bike?
If it was sitting any shit in the tank could have gelled in the matrix.
Fit a new filter and try.

If it starts and then runs down it's a sign that it's starved of fuel.
Once it stops fuel can trickle through any blockage to re-fill the float chamber again.

My money if on blocked fuel system.

I don't know of fuel getting 'old' but I do know fuel filters plug is there is no regular flow through them.

You can try to by-pass any fuel filter and direct feed fuel via a bit of hose from a fuel can. If it's only a gravity feed then it should prove disprove a fuel blockage. Without having to gut the fuel system.


You may as well be talking chinese to me as I'm quite the noob when it comes to mechanics.

I guess I could try changing the air filter. See if that works.

I called up a local mechanic and he said it could be the carbs that need cleaning. (He said £200 minimum to fix it :/)

Do you think it could be the a2 restriction that caused the issue?

Can someone in London or around the kent area come and fix it for me lol, will give you £50 for your troubles.

I've spent more on the bike than I bought it for. Before next summer comes, i'm getting a ducati 696 or any newer bike that I know won't break down. My R125 would sit for ages and the only issue would be a dead battery.


you look close where you based?
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:

you look close where you based?


Blackheath/Greenwich
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you have it started have you tried taking it for a run? are you starting it in neutral?
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
Once you have it started have you tried taking it for a run? are you starting it in neutral?


Tried taking it for a run, did work briefly before cutting off. Yeah I'm starting in neutral. I'm not that silly not to Razz
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal-El wrote:
SQL wrote:
Once you have it started have you tried taking it for a run? are you starting it in neutral?


Tried taking it for a run, did work briefly before cutting off. Yeah I'm starting in neutral. I'm not that silly not to Razz


Start bike with full choke, let it idle at 3k for about 30sec then move to half choke, go for a ride after 5-10mins turn choke off, (Near your house obviously) see how long until it cuts out.

Open fuel cap check for vacuum noises, check the airbox drain plug. if none of that works check the airfilter and the colour of the sparkplugs. post pics here
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

. Might be the tap playing up because of a loose vacuum line or the tap diaphragm. Bandit taps aren't that good, turn it to PRIme and see if it runs longer, duff tap can just allow fuel to dribble through overnight and fill the carb bowls so it can run for a short while each day. I've had a similar problem in the past and it was the vacuum pipe half hanging off the tap, just had to run it home on Prime as it'a bit of a bitch to get at without lifting the tank on a Bandit.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fucked battery.

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 11 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one else has mentioned it, try starting and running it with the petrol cap open, it would rule out a blocked breather, if nothing else.
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