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PostPosted: 21:25 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Anyone got any ideas on how to do this but neater? Reply with quote

https://i.imgur.com/bd2DiU1.jpg

I have a pair of crocodile clips going to an anderson connector, much like the picture above except about 4M of cable between the two. I am planning on using twin core cable like this.

https://i.imgur.com/0bcElEp.jpg

My concern is the point where I remove the outer casing will look crap and will be prone to damage. I don't like the idea of putting a big piece of heatshrink over it either because it will still look awful. I have been looking for a Y shaped plastic housing I can put over the end but I haven't found anything decent.
I also don't want to use a bulky junction box like this.

https://i.imgur.com/mYgWHop.jpg
Unless it was really small. The cable I am thinking of using is twin core, with each core being 1mmsq.

So has anyone got any ideas?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrap in self amalgamating tape with cloth tape (rubber adhesive type) over the top. This will protect it from damage.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never used it myself but might be worth a try...


https://www.plastidip.co.uk/shop/liquid-electrical-tape

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PostPosted: 23:48 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nowt wrong with heat shrink if used correctly.
it will give you a more compact joint than anything else.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 07 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tech flex with heat shrink at the ends?
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should point out that this is for a product that is being sold so self amalgamating tape isn't really an option. It is got to be long lasting and so heat shrink/plasti-dip won't be tough enough.

Closest robust thing I have found so far is basically the same as this.
https://i.imgur.com/EQrJeMF.jpg
That is still too big though and the ports are just tube, no threads or anything.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, I have found a picture of exactly what I need.

https://i.imgur.com/15Hcox9.jpg
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PostPosted: 05:59 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

providing its not going to get hot, polymorph. its freaking brilliant stuff for moulding round things.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's for a product, why not contact an electrical component wholesaler or manufacturer and have a proper batch of whatever you need made up?
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
If it's for a product, why not contact an electrical component wholesaler or manufacturer and have a proper batch of whatever you need made up?


For the moment, I only need ~15.


Polymorph looks like I would need some sort of mould. I was hoping for something off the shelf that would just clamp down on the wires. I might end up using something like this.

https://i.imgur.com/RdNETcn.jpg

Although they are still kind of large.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cable-moulded-parts/2181426/

Y-joint cable boot.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cable-moulded-parts/2181426/

Y-joint cable boot.


Perfect but too large unless I use larger diameter cable. I am looking at using 1mm twin core with a diameter of 4.9mm on the outer casing.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS sell them in other sizes.

It was just as an example, and so you know what they are called. You might be able to trawl the interweb for ones in your size.

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PostPosted: 13:12 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
RS sell them in other sizes.


Yeah I had a look. All bigger. Laughing I am thinking of maybe bulking up the cable with heat shrink and then using one of those Y cable boots.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:22 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

An inline jack socket with strain relief.

Drill out the centre so the two wires just come out the end (or chuck the insert altogether and just use the outer boot).

https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg02799/2-5mm-jack-socket-in-line-mono/dp/AV17314
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 08 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
An inline jack socket with strain relief.

Drill out the centre so the two wires just come out the end (or chuck the insert altogether and just use the outer boot).

https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg02799/2-5mm-jack-socket-in-line-mono/dp/AV17314


I think this might be the best option. Hopefully I can find one that fits nice and tightly. Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
Perfect but too large unless I use larger diameter cable. I am looking at using 1mm twin core with a diameter of 4.9mm on the outer casing.


Anderson connectors are rated at something like 180amp at 12v, will 1mm cable fit in the clamp?
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The conventional ones come in sizes down to 50a, but I think you'd be better using the power pole range.

What is it you're building?

Would tamiya connectors do it?
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
The Artist wrote:
Perfect but too large unless I use larger diameter cable. I am looking at using 1mm twin core with a diameter of 4.9mm on the outer casing.


Anderson connectors are rated at something like 180amp at 12v, will 1mm cable fit in the clamp?


Only baby ones. They go down to 15A.

https://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-powerpoles/powerpole-sets/15-amp-red-black-anderson-powerpole-sets.html
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
The conventional ones come in sizes down to 50a, but I think you'd be better using the power pole range.

What is it you're building?

Would tamiya connectors do it?


I am panel mounting one side of the Anderson connectors with this kit.

https://i.imgur.com/Ha1qGWC.jpg

Tamiya are kind of cheap looking and not as robust as powerpole IMO.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey even my optimate uses tamiya connectors! But I would agree that against a PowerPole they do look cheap.

Should have known they go down to 15amp, I have a pack of them in the garage Embarassed

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PostPosted: 15:35 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:29 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case up the cable size and use the proper cable boot, don't bodge things to fit. It doesn't look professional. And people involved in the work your equipment is designed for will spot a bodge a mile off I expect.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 09 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
In that case up the cable size and use the proper cable boot, don't bodge things to fit. It doesn't look professional. And people involved in the work your equipment is designed for will spot a bodge a mile off I expect.


Yeah, I am looking at lots of different options at the moment. I have so much single core wire around and now I need to buy another 100M of twin core. 4mm would be nice but so expensive.
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