So turns out bikes can be dangerous. Who knew?

[KnightsFall]

So I kind of broke my arm just below my right shoulder. Came off at about 15-20 on a wet, lousy road surface. Inexperience almost certainly played a part but the off duty copper who had followed me for some time thought I was being sensible for the conditions.

Basically, came down a hill that bent round to the left with visibility not too far around it. Came up behind car waiting to turn right. Tried to slow. Couldn't. Fell off. Landed on shoulder.

Bike has damaged instruments, right foot peg and brake lever and a few more cosmetic bits. Waiting to hear the full butchers bill.

[Rogerborg]

Sad times. I honestly don't remember this much diesel and god awful slippery tarmac even a few years back. Music's too loud, get off my lawn.

SPILL COUNTER!

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[zark]

Pics of off duty plods fireblade pls



And GWS fella
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[Accuhaler]

This happened to me this year, but I broke my forearm just next to the elbow, couldn't move my forearm for like 2 weeks.

Is this the same for you, but your whole arm?

[KnightsFall]

Off duty copper was driving a Civic. Not a biker himself, so he said. I was conscious of him behind me but obviously did not know his vocation. Was mostly thinking how I might be getting on his nerves by slowing so much for corners. Kind of helps to have someone say I was being sensible but also makes it harder to know what I could have done better. Can't shake the feeling that the car in front was being somewhat hesitant and not making use of the central area to make the turn. Does not absolve me of blame but might be part of the reason I did not react well enough. Or maybe I'm overthinking it. Paramedics assumed it was a manhole cover but I'm pretty sure it was not.

[DrDonnyBrago]

Was it a 125? We seem to get a disproportionate number of 125s crashing out in the rain.

[KnightsFall]

Incidentally, leaky Oxford jacket came away with only a few scuffs, even in the likely area of impact. Crap is this is, I figure no padding might have left me with a shattered shoulder or something. Was wearing sturdy, non-motorbike boots that I had just bought and they aquitted themselves well enough. No leg protection so lucky to get away with a slightly bloody knee. Also new gloves. I guess they worked well enough. Left hand hurts some but still works.

[KnightsFall]

[Polarbear]

I think its a lack of weight. I could do corners in shitty weather on any of my big bikes but riding my daughters 125 used to really shake me up.

A combination of light weight, skinny tyres and brakes that are almost too good in the wet for the bike made it very twitchy.

I hate this 125 law. A nice little 500 is a much much safer bike than a bloody 125 IMO.
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[MCN]

Hard luck.
GWS.
Paint Diagram.
Pics or it never happened.

You could try up-grading your brakes to get the very very best out of them.

I fitted a HELL braided line to a 125. It made a hoowur of a difference to the brake effect. Not just talk.

Keep the discs clean and the calliper serviced.

Work on Improving your Roadcraft.

Police Motorcycle Roadcraft. (It is a good book but a wee bit Gay in some bits.)
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[mentalboy]

[talkToTheHat]

The lower ground pressure of a smaller bike means they aquaplane more easily. Worst are mini-cruisers with extra wide tyres and rearward weight distribution. Of course if it's fitted with cheap nasty tyres or ones that have aged plenty then it will be extra fun in the rain. 125 brakes are hardly sharp, I thought the brakes on my GZ were pretty useless untill I locked the front and fell of.

[MCN]

[UncleFester]

[UncleFester]

[KnightsFall]

Wish I could remember clearer. It is a bit of a blur. Did not hit my head but could not say if I blacked out from pain or anything. Perhaps more likely it is just the shock of it.

There is some scuffing around the shoulder armour and it would have been right on top of the injury, so I assume the armour hit first. I don't think I slid far at all, as there was little tearing and my trousers were ripped but hardly shredded.

99% sure no aqua planing was involved (as I understand the term). It was an uneven surface with little standing water and my speed was low. The YBR does also have skinny tyres. Breaks might have been wet though. Had not used them much for a bit and they did seem ineffectual at first then bit quite suddenly. Pretty sure I was upright when I really started to brake and it was far enough after the bend to have no real lean going on.

I think I might have been able to get around them, had I been thinking more clearly. I agree that there is room for improvement in my roadcraft

[mentalboy]

[Kris]

Nothing to do with the weight, nor the brakes.

I bet it was on shitty OE tyres. That and a lack of experience IMO.
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[MCN]

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[UncleFester]

[MCN]

[Fizzer Thou]

When Mrs.Fizzer went from a C90 Cub to a CB125TDE SuperDream the tandem piston caliper front brake was overkill,even back then in 1982.To have changed the rubber hose to a braided stainless line would have made the front brake even more aggressive than was necessary.

But it was the OEM Japlop tyres that were the limiting factor in every single way.They were awful and once replaced with some far superior Avons the bike was actually rideable in the wet.

When Mrs.Fizzer did her bike test,the examiner told her not to cover the front brake when performing the emergency stop.When the time came she grabbed a handful of front brake and the aggressive action momentarily locked the front brake.Having used the bike as a commuter around London for quite some time before her test,she learnt to cover the front so that she was able to brake more progressively than a sudden handful.

Once she passed her test she found riding a CB550F2 with big twin discs,Aeroquip brakelines and Ferodo pads far more fun when combined with superior tyres
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[MCN]

If the brake it too 'aggressive' then don't use all your fingers to pull the lever.
It's simple arithmetic.
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