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asta1
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Yamaha MT-07 Reply with quote

Hello all and merry christmas.

On the advice of forum members, I have decided to skip the 125 and do my A2 test asap. The next question is therefore what A2 bike? I have narrowed it down to either a Yamaha MT-07 or a Kawasaki er6f. Has anyone got any experience of these bikes? The specs look good, and the reviews are generally positive, but I am more interested in the opinions of current owners tbh.

That being said, how do people find them, are there any mechanical issues to be aware of, how would they perfom as both a day to day commuter and as a bike for fun at the weekend, what would you be looking to pay second hand, and does anyone ride either one with an A2 restrictor fitted?

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PostPosted: 17:02 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you're absolutely flush with cash, I wouldn't be looking at a relatively new MT-07, especially if you're going to ride it restricted. 35kW is 35kW - you'll be paying more to restrict it more.

Something older, cheaper and pikier, ride out your 2 years of purgatory, then go full power.

Fazer, ER6, Gladius, SV650, Bandit, Divvy, CBF600, maybe even one of the 500 twins (but you won't be able to use them for your A tests). Enjoy it for what it is, then treat yourself later.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 25 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Unless you're absolutely flush with cash, I wouldn't be looking at a relatively new MT-07...
Something older, cheaper and pikier, ride out your 2 years of purgatory, then go full power.


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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-10-59-plate-Yamaha-XJ6N-600cc-A2-fantastic-condition-/151919243972?hash=item235f17b2c4:g:UxAAAOSwo3pWcp6U


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PostPosted: 10:18 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats your budget?
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MT07 is supposed to be a very fun bike and quite light for its 75bhp 270degree motor. It also looks way better and has better build and finish than the MT09 IMO too.

Riding such a decent fun bike with nearly 30bhp restricted out out it would be worse than being a Virgin all your life after having your disk chopped off I would say!

Would not want an A2 bike unless it was a natural one and also light simple and basic for lols at 47bhp.
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asta1
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. In response to the questions asked; Budget is pretty flexible with an absolute upper limit of around £5,500 but my preference would obviously be to spend less, especially if it isn't a bike I will necessarily want to keep once I finally get the full 'A'.

My thinking with the MT-07 is that it is a bike that I actually want, not just one which conforms to the A2 requirements, and as such, spending more money on it and keeping it longer might make sense.

However, I must also consider that I am quite likely to drop my first bike, so a cheaper learner machine might be more logical.

On that basis, it would make sense to buy that XJ6N, which looks pretty good in its own right actually, and then put the saved cash towards a bike I want after the restriction ends.

Which leads me to th question: If, for example, I picked up an XJ6N for £2,800ish what would I expect to be able to shift it for in 2 years/10,000miles?

Thanks again,
A.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merry Xmas Very Happy

asta1 wrote:

On that basis, it would make sense to buy that XJ6N, which looks pretty good in its own right actually, and then put the saved cash towards a bike I want after the restriction ends.

Which leads me to th question: If, for example, I picked up an XJ6N for £2,800ish what would I expect to be able to shift it for in 2 years/10,000miles?

Thanks again,
A.


If you do it right and take your time to get decent one you can sell it in 2 years for the same price or even more with a profit.

All my second hand bikes I have sold them with profit in 1-2 years.

The key is to buy cheap LOW mileage bike from a private seller and to haggle.

Also check owners forums. You can find there very well serviced bikes.

On the other hand I bought my current Fazer 2003 Foxeye FSZ 600 on impulse no major search at all and with relatively high 30k mileage and no haggling Laughing

It was cheap though £1300. I bet I will sell it for more Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 26 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Riding such a decent fun bike with nearly 30bhp restricted out out it would be worse than being a Virgin all your life after having your disk chopped off I would say!


Having your disk chopped off may increase stopping distance.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

asta1 wrote:
Thanks for the replies. In response to the questions asked; Budget is pretty flexible with an absolute upper limit of around £5,500 but my preference would obviously be to spend less, especially if it isn't a bike I will necessarily want to keep once I finally get the full 'A'.

My thinking with the MT-07 is that it is a bike that I actually want, not just one which conforms to the A2 requirements, and as such, spending more money on it and keeping it longer might make sense.

However, I must also consider that I am quite likely to drop my first bike, so a cheaper learner machine might be more logical.

On that basis, it would make sense to buy that XJ6N, which looks pretty good in its own right actually, and then put the saved cash towards a bike I want after the restriction ends.

Which leads me to th question: If, for example, I picked up an XJ6N for £2,800ish what would I expect to be able to shift it for in 2 years/10,000miles?

Thanks again,
A.


Well, you'll have to restrict the XJ6 as well, as in fact any 600cc bike I'd imagine. On that basis, the better economy has to be getting the MT07 and restricting that and keeping it, assuming you're sure you're not going want to upgrade again once you pass the A test. Seems a no-brainer if you like the MT07.

p.s. my XJ6 Diversion doesn't exactly light the world on fire as it is, I can't imagine how dull the thing would be to ride restricted, you'd be better off getting a cheap and fun A2 compatible bike that doesn't need the restriction and riding to the limit of its performance envelope for now.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGs1 wrote:

Alternatively he could buy an A2 compliant bike and restrict it.


Yes sure, my point was more that if he's going to do that I'd advise against doing it with an XJ6, and that's from me owning one unrestricted. The thing's dull enough as it is! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an A2 restricted MT-07 and love it. Don't get the wrong impression just because it has a bigger motor than what you're used to and think you will automatically drop it. You will be fine.

I got mine from a dealer, but got a great deal.
It was a demo bike with 200 miles and a bunch of add-ons albeit cheaper than a brand spanking one! If you don't want to buy brand new have a look around for a demo one or private seller. Can't see you having any problems as they are relatively new anyway. (Try to get one with Mich Pilot 3's on)

In regards to your question about commuting I have a car so it isn't my only means of transport however I couldn't see a problem commuting on it. Don't bother with the comfort seat, standard is fine for any mileage. Panniers are an option too. Under seat storage is big enough for your restriction cert. a wallet and probably a mars bar.

I only use the bike as a toy so with regards to it being fun at weekends that's all I use it for! Bars are short so filtering is a doddle. Great on fuel. Suspension is crap but good enough for me. It's quite soft and you can only adjust the preload on the rear so bare that in mind. Obviously upgrades are out there but at an expense of course. I'm 6ft and can flat foot to give you an idea of the seat height. Seating position is very relaxed and not aggressive at all, however if you preferred straight bars and rear sets you could change this.


You can get mechanical restrictions from eBay (how legit these are is a mystery, but so are the laws surrounding A2 restriction kits and their validity) for £40-50. These just bolt on and act as a throttle stop to limit the revs so you won't be paying a great deal to restrict it. It's 1 screw to remove when your 2 year is up. (Or one screw to put on when you crash, whichever you choose) A complete mechanical novice will have no trouble fitting it with access to a couple of spanners.

Any questions PM me.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get throttle stop restrictors then the MT07 trumps the ER6 because it makes more torque earlier apparently, so 35kw is not always just 35kw.

That said, it's 10% and not the be-all. Plenty of second hand ER6's which won't hit the pocket quite so hard.


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PostPosted: 21:00 - 01 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 5.5k you can get a MT09 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 01 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
For 5.5k you can get a MT09 Thumbs Up


Can't ride them on the A2.

If you plan to restrict it and keep the restrictors in, get a cheap FZS600. If you're going to do what most people do and take your restrictors out eventually, get the Mt-07. Very fun bike, I enjoyed riding my friends very much until I got pulled over by an undercover lol.
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