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 Posted: 14:56 - 04 Jan 2016 Post subject: Re: Modular Helmet Reccomendation |
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| Trackr wrote: | I've been to several stores and have tried more than 10 helmets.
Overall, I can't tell much difference between them. The expensive ones (>$500) are more cushy and comfortable. Otherwise, they're all about the same. |
The internal padding might seem more comfortable on a helmet that has a bigger price tag but are those helmets the right fit and size for you? Just because you can get your head inside a helmet doesn't mean that it ticks all the boxes and will stay where it's meant to in the event of an off.
Forget the price tag and put a helmet on and learn how to tell what a good fit is and isn't in a mirror in the shop. Put the helmet on without being strapped up and the things your looking for are:
1) That the cheek pads compress against your cheeks and pinch them a little.
2) When you move the helmet side to side your cheeks move with the pads.
3) Place your hand on the chin guard area and pull the helmet down, a good fitting helmet shouldn't move much and should attempt to take your face with it, in my experience it should only move to just above the eyebrows any further down the face and it's to loose or not for you.
Probably more I'm forgetting about.
| Trackr wrote: | I was just hoping there was a popular helmet everyone was getting. |
Not everyone has the same head shape.
| Trackr wrote: | If your helmet was noise proof, how would you hear the oncoming traffic? |
It's wind noise that helmets block out, some better than others, you'll want to read reviews on the internet in regards to helmets you like the look of to see what owners that already wear and ride in them say about it, if bad wind noise is mentioned then avoid.
| Trackr wrote: | I've tried helmets that seemed a good fit but became incredibly uncomfortable after half an hour of riding. |
And this is why it's a good idea to find a shop that allow their customers to walk around with the helmet on their head for around ten minutes to get an idea of how it feels after that period of time as popping a helmet on and on looking at it and going "good graphics m8" is not enough time spent to know if it's for you or not regardless of how it looks.
To my knowledge at first helmets can be a little uncomfortable as they bed in and mould to your head (the padding) but shouldn't be enough to cause you pain, if you get pain when putting on a helmet on any of the pressure points then it's only going to get worse over time and the helmet isn't for you, period.
| Trackr wrote: | So, I would appreciate some reccomendations. |
Sure, tell us your head shape.
I'd call a pinlock a necessity since I first got a helmet with one I haven't even looked at one without, life saver. |
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Thanks for the reponses, guys.
In order..
1.) I want to hear the traffic around me because I live in Israel and people here drive like lunatics. I'm usually being overtaken by two cars and a motorcycle doing 250 KM/h at any point in time.
2.) I have no idea what head 'shape' means. Logically, since everyone has a different head shape, you'd need a custom helmet made specifically for you, but since that's not an option then I have to assume that most helmets have a generalized way of conforming to any given person.
3.) I'm currently considering three helmets.
MDS MD200 - $180
Caberg Duke - $280
AGV Compact - $380
The MDS is the best looking (though not by much), and the AGV is by far the most comfortable.
4.)People tell me that the helmet should be so tight you can't move without the helmet moving with your face.. but on the other hand it shouldn't be uncomfortably tight.
That makes zero sense to me. It's like saying "You should make sure you oven temperature is high enough to cook your food, but not to the point where it's too warm to touch."
As someone who rides a street bike for speed, any helmet feels horrible. The AGV feels significantly better though.
5.) I only measured my head when I got home, and I think it's 59-61, which puts me right between Large and Extra Large.
I tried the Large and it passed all the tests I've seen people use, but the Extra Large felt a lot nicer.
Is it really that big of a deal to have a slightly larger helmet? I mean I have the chin strap so it's not like the helmet is going to fly off my head during an accident and 99% of the time I'd be more comfortable.
Unless, like people are saying, it would be more noisy and I can't experience that until I buy the damn thing, so.. |
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| Trackr wrote: | Thanks for the reponses, guys.
In order..
1.) I want to hear the traffic around me because I live in Israel and people here drive like lunatics. I'm usually being overtaken by two cars and a motorcycle doing 250 KM/h at any point in time.
As has been said numerous times no helmet is going to cut out traffic noise, just cut down on wind noise, go google some helmet reviews
2.) I have no idea what head 'shape' means. Logically, since everyone has a different head shape, you'd need a custom helmet made specifically for you, but since that's not an option then I have to assume that most helmets have a generalized way of conforming to any given person.
Every manufacturer caters for different head shapes, its up to you to find out what ones fit your particular head shape, THERE IS NO GOLDEN GOOSE HELMET THAT FITS ALL HEAD SHAPES.
3.) I'm currently considering three helmets.
MDS MD200 - $180
Caberg Duke - $280
AGV Compact - $380
The MDS is the best looking (though not by much), and the AGV is by far the most comfortable.
4.)People tell me that the helmet should be so tight you can't move without the helmet moving with your face.. but on the other hand it shouldn't be uncomfortably tight.
That makes zero sense to me. It's like saying "You should make sure you oven temperature is high enough to cook your food, but not to the point where it's too warm to touch."
Replace tight with snug.
As someone who rides a street bike for speed, any helmet feels horrible. The AGV feels significantly better though.
5.) I only measured my head when I got home, and I think it's 59-61, which puts me right between Large and Extra Large.
I tried the Large and it passed all the tests I've seen people use, but the Extra Large felt a lot nicer.
Is it really that big of a deal to have a slightly larger helmet? I mean I have the chin strap so it's not like the helmet is going to fly off my head during an accident and 99% of the time I'd be more comfortable.
Oh yes of course a chin strap will never snap in an off
Unless, like people are saying, it would be more noisy and I can't experience that until I buy the damn thing, so.. |
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I have a truly modular helmet (removable chin bar). An Airoh J106.
Very pleased with it. I particularly like the very low profile of it, small shell, low wind resistance.
It's not for sale in the Uk. I took a chance on it fitting and it does. It's approved as both and open and full face helmet in Europe and so is UK road legal.
I reviewed it after I got it. Still wearing it. Still pleased with it. Chinpiece covers a lot of face making it excellent in the winter. Also looks like a ninja facemask.
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As someone who rides a street bike for speed, any helmet feels horrible. The AGV feels significantly better though.
I tried the Large and it passed all the tests I've seen people use, but the Extra Large felt a lot nicer.
Is it really that big of a deal to have a slightly larger helmet? I mean I have the chin strap so it's not like the helmet is going to fly off my head during an accident and 99% of the time I'd be more comfortable.
Unless, like people are saying, it would be more noisy and I can't experience that until I buy the damn thing, so.. |
The only reason you get helmet with proper snug fit is for your safety. If you can accept the risk wear open face helmet do not bother with full one that is so big that will fall off on impact.
Chin strap alone cannot hold on the helmet on your head during crash because of the force of the impact. The helmet will slide forward.
Which raises the question why modular? Full face helmets can be more comfty when you get use to them. ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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| kerr wrote: | Go back and re read all the answers given, all your questions have been answered. |
Damn, man. You're an enormous asshole. I think you put your helmet on the wrong end.
| kerr wrote: |
As has been said numerous times no helmet is going to cut out traffic noise, just cut down on wind noise, go google some helmet reviews |
Yeah, I got it. I was simply responding to someone.
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Every manufacturer caters for different head shapes, its up to you to find out what ones fit your particular head shape, THERE IS NO GOLDEN GOOSE HELMET THAT FITS ALL HEAD SHAPES. |
Here's how reading this went:
"Oh, I see. That's a good point, I'll keep that in.. AAAAHHH WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU YELLING?!?"
| kerr wrote: | Replace tight with snug.
Oh yes of course a chin strap will never snap in an off |
Sarcasm almost always translates to poor reasoning skills.
Case in point - there are plenty of straps that are essentially snap-proof, and at $300 there is no excuse for not using one.
Thus, logically, the only reason to not use one must be practical. For instance, the strap itself causing more damage to the lower part of the head when it is the only thing keeping the helmet on.
Again, I never said that I'm going to buy XL - just thinking out loud. I don't know why you're getting so severely butthurt. |
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| Alpineandy wrote: | There's a big difference between hearing traffic around you and being deafened by wind noise. You can wear ear plugs and still hear the traffic around you, the plugs just cut out the 'interference' noise.A number of racing schools give lesson number one as wear ear plugs so you can actually hear the bike and what's happening around you instead of being deafened by extraneous noise. |
Yes, I figured out that the helmet filters the noise instead of blocking it. But how would ear plugs work? They literally cancel out all noise.
| Alpineandy wrote: | Every head is different but most helmets are different. One helmet that suits my head shape is probably different from the helmet that suits your head shape. You will only know which is best for you by trying them on your head. |
That's a tough one. I know the AGV fits better than the MDS and virtually all other helmets, but it's not like it feels as comfortable as not wearing it, so I have no objective way to know if it's the 'right' one.
| Alpineandy wrote: | The look of the Helmet should be secondary to the fit.
When you wear the helmet hold the chin piece firm and see of you can twist your head without the helmet moving. If you can then it's not the correct fit. In the event of an accident you don't want the helmet moving on your head. |
Ahh, that makes a lot more sense. That asshole above should really read this.
But then, why not have some sort of neck garter that would tie around the neck making slip off impossible? Seems easy enough.
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Which raises the question why modular? Full face helmets can be more comfty when you get use to them. |
I've only worn full-face and 3/4 helmets so far.
I simply figured it would be nice to open it on hot summer days, since summers here are significantly hotter than summers in the UK, for instance.
I was in London in August and it was LITERALLY as warm as it is here right now. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 37 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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