VIN does not match VRM

[bk88bill]

Hi guys
I have bought a Yamaha ybr 125 2014 cat c with 4950 miles on the clock 2 previous owners
i did an HPI check on it via text message and it showed that the bike has multible insurance loss records but when i saw the bike in person it was in excellent conditions engine clean and went ahead and bought the bike
when i rode it back home the handlebar seemed a bit twisted to the left and in essece not in the correct position and the engine makes a bad rattling altought it looked clean and never touched
next day i run a check on HPI website and here are the results :

Recorded against
VRM

Description
YAMAHA YBR 125

Date
10/07/2014

Category
D - Vehicle damaged but repairable - the insurer decided not to repair


Recorded against
VRM

Description
YAMAHA YBR 125

Date
29/07/2015

Category
C - Vehicle extensively damaged but repairable - the insurer decided not to repair

then when i entered the vin number on the HPI check website it said that the VIN does not match VRM
and here are the results
National Mileage Register

VIN match


WARNING : This VIN is not registered with the VRM supplied



Data currently held on the national mileage register indicates that there may be a mileage discrepancy on this vehicle.


Mileages as recorded by the National Mileage Register


06/11/2014 DVLA mileage 14000 14000
04/01/2016 NMR mileage 4950 4950
please not that i did enter the VIN with the current mileage
the guy i bought it from said a lady hit him from the back and what was damaged was just the rear panel that holds the number plate and that was the reason why it got written off as cat c and that he bought it from a company
i just paid tax yesterday and the guy must have sent the V5 today as well
i know i was a bit greedy buying a cat c bike but i thought as it looked clean and not that bad and as i will be using it only to commute work which is only 6 miles per day it should not be that big of a deal
just wanted to know what to do not and if i have been a victim of a fraud ?
any help will be much appreciated
tnx

[Nobby the Bastard]

Sounds like a ringer. Do you know the person you bought it from?
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[recman]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Double check the chassis number on the bike (should be stamped on the head stock - might also be on a plate rivited to the frame but that isn't that important) against the registration document. They should match, or the V5C does not belong to the bike

All the best

Katy
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[bk88bill]

Hi guys I just have the green slip
And it does not have the v5 serial number
I don't know the guy
I tried giving him a call but he doesn't pick up
What troubles me is that on DVLA the mileage is 14000 and on the clock is almost 5000
I took the VIN number from the top of the forks
It's a 17 long number

[bk88bill]

I can get in touch with the person again by going to his house and knocking the door basically
but am new to biking and I don't know where to take it from here
should I wait until I receive the V5 in my name and check the serial number
or call the DVLA or the police
any help plzzz

[bk88bill]

this is the bike

[Kickstart]

[Nobby the Bastard]

The green slip doesn't have the VIN on it.
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[Kickstart]

[Keir]

was the V5 in the blokes name that you bought it off?

anyway you have a few options:

1) wait for V5 to come back then check all numbers. if its fine then its not a problem. if its different then....

2) take the bike back to the seller and tell him what you have. demand your money back and give the bike back. If he refuses or is suddenly untraceable then....

3) take the bike to the police station and tell them what you have. they should check the bike and if its wrong / stolen etc they will tell you. however if its stolen, the bike will be seized from you and give it back to the rightful owner.
You will be able to give a statement saying who you got the bike from etc which should lead to his arrest for handling stolen goods (you may have to chase this as it can be a long process).

4) make a civil claim (google "money claim") against him for your money back. send in the bailiffs.
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[Rogerborg]

Ouch. Well, hopefully it's just a records snafu and the VIN will match the V5C. However, MOT places will check it so you do need to get it sorted one way or another.

One possibility is that the frame has been swapped. In essence, the frame (and the VIN) is the bike, so if that turns out to be the case you'll want to tell the DVLA that you're the new keeper of that frame and let them sort it out.

Best of luck.
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[Fidge]

Do you have a receipt from the guy? What kier said in option 3 might get a bit sticky without one.

[Keir]

[dannymassive]

There could be a few plausible explanations for this!

The bike was registered new in 2014 then later that year in July when the first CAT D was recorded, someone at the DVLA could have made a typo and input 14,000 rather than 1,400.

Alternatively, the discrepancy could be from a new speedo being fitted following the CAT C this starting the odometer back at zero.

I think option 1 is more likely to be honest.
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[bk88bill]

[Pete.]

Wrong VIN nearly always means you've bought a stolen bike. If you go to the seller you might be lucky and get your money back (but if you wait for the V5c they will have spent it). If you go to the cops you lose the bike and then you have to sue the seller for your money.

I would be beating the guy's door down this morning.
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[Rogerborg]

[bk88bill]

[Rogerborg]

Hahah, no, no, sir, the DVLA don't make mistakes.

Do nothing and don't fret until you have the V5C. It may all be perfectly innocent, by which I mean just a typical typo.
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