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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Ground anchor on a public road Reply with quote
I'm thinking about bolting an unobtrustive anchor into the side of the kerb front of my house, then chaining a traffic cone o' crete to it to keep my parking spot. Then obviously I can lock my bike up too.

Has anyone had the balls to do this without seeking permission?
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redeem ouzzer
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I hope OP gets raped and murdered in prison.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
The council put them in for free all along the roadside. A multi-purpose device put to intermittent use as street illumination and in a pinch even acting as a dog's toilet or somewhere handy for drunks to cling to whilst they puke their guts up.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Criminal damage..
Obstructing the highway...

etc..

I suspect the answer to your question is No.
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
GT200Fan79 wrote:
I hope OP gets raped and murdered in prison.


How queer. Confused

Pete. wrote:
The council put them in for free all along the roadside. A multi-purpose device put to intermittent use as street illumination and in a pinch even acting as a dog's toilet or somewhere handy for drunks to cling to whilst they puke their guts up.


The problem is that down my street the chain would have to span the footpath, which would present a trip hazard and an obstruction for pushchairs and wheelchairs.

Andy_Pagin wrote:

Criminal damage..
Obstructing the highway...

etc..

I suspect the answer to your question is No.


Really? It's just four bolts.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
It might only be 4 bolts, but if some daft twat trips over it and breaks a leg the council will want to know who fitted it. Or if you split the curb stone doing it...
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Ste
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
A kerb stone doesn't seem the most permanent thing to attach a ground anchor too. Confused
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Andy_Pagin
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
lincsrider wrote:
Really? It's just four bolts.

Still criminal damage, a concreted cone is still obstruction.
The council will chuck the book at you in order to send a big clear message via the local press that this sort of thing is not acceptable.

Another small point of law, it's not your parking spot. You have no rights whatsoever when it comes to parking outside your own home. By making part of the highway inaccessible by any means, even just a plain old fashioned traffic cone or cardboard box you commit an offence.
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
J4mes wrote:
It might only be 4 bolts, but if some daft twat trips over it and breaks a leg the council will want to know who fitted it. Or if you split the curb stone doing it...


A small, flush fitted one, installed at the side of a kerb, hardly represents a massive H&S risk. If some tit DID manage to find a way to hurt himself by its presence, and it was traced back to me, I'd say some bloke fitted it for me and told me it was all legal.

Ste wrote:
A kerb stone doesn't seem the most permanent thing to attach a ground anchor too.


It's still better than what it's anchored to at the moment (i.e. nothing.)

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Still criminal damage, a concreted cone is still obstruction. The council will chuck the book at you in order to send a big clear message via the local press that this sort of thing is not acceptable.


I understand that what I'm planning to do is illegal, criminal, evil, and sadisitic. But I wonder if there has been a single case in which someone has installed a ground anchor onto public property and been prosecuted for it?

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Another small point of law, it's not your parking spot. You have no rights whatsoever when it comes to parking outside your own home.


I understand this. However, the only reason I cannot take my bike down the side passage and store it in the garden is that idiots keep parking their cars in front of the dropped kerb in front of my gate. (I live in a terraced property where the front door opens out onto the street.)

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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
lincsrider wrote:
I want to do xyz, is it legal?

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No, you will get screwed because <eleventy reasons>

lincsrider wrote:
but, but, but, but reasons

Crack on then sunshine.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Q: Do you have neighbours?

No - You'll be fine
Yes - They will grass you
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
Crack on then sunshine.


It's too cold at the moment. I just wondered if anyone else has done it, and has there been any comeback?

Pete. wrote:
Q: Do you have neighbours?

No - You'll be fine
Yes - They will grass you


My neighbours are all Eastern European and wouldn't care less if I took a pneumatic drill to the street. Thumbs Up
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not just the council or people tripping on it you have to think about.

How many times have you seen car drivers rub the wheels against the kerb while parking?

You say "A small, flush fitted one".
Anything that small and flush fitted into a kerb will be pointless anyway.

At least we know which council to inform about a dangerous chunk of metal attached to a public highway.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/report-highway-defects/41433.article

Wink
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
lincsrider wrote:


My neighbours are all Eastern European and wouldn't care less if I took a pneumatic drill to the street. Thumbs Up


Then what are you waiting for?
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
It's not just the council or people tripping on it you have to think about.

How many times have you seen car drivers rub the wheels against the kerb while parking?

You say "A small, flush fitted one".
Anything that small and flush fitted into a kerb will be pointless anyway.

At least we know which council to inform about a dangerous chunk of metal attached to a public highway.


I know that it's illegal and highly dangerous, and that the Russian Mafia may put a price on my head if my diabolical contraption scuffs up their Mercedes. What can I say, I'm a wicked person.

The question is will I get away with it?

Ste wrote:
https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/report-highway-defects/41433.article


No mention of motorcycle anchors, then? Looks like I'm safe. Very Happy

KnuckleShot wrote:
Then what are you waiting for?


The kettle to boil. Vandalism's thirsty work, after all.
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
lincsrider wrote:
The question is will I get away with it?

No, because I will report you to your local council.

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Thanks for playing.
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
lincsrider wrote:
The question is will I get away with it?

No, because I will report you to your local council.

/thread

Thanks for playing.


Let me guess: you work in health and safety? Or a bike thief who has a vested interest in making sure other people's rides remain unsecure?

No, got it: you are a fairweather biker who has nothing to do until spring rolls around. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, he's a penis face. Razz
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
No, he's a penis face. Razz


How unfortunate. I think I saw him on The Undateables once? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
why come on here to ask for an opinion on something if you know its illegal but you are prepared to do it anyway? just get on it!

your not going to ride a 600 on your restricted licence per chance?
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrbox wrote:
your not going to ride a 600 on your restricted licence per chance?

Needs to be at least 1,000cc. Wink
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lincsrider
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrbox wrote:
why come on here to ask for an opinion on something if you know its illegal but you are prepared to do it anyway? just get on it!


Because I wanted to know if anyone else had done it, and if so, had there been any complaints about it.

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your not going to ride a 600 on your restricted licence per chance?


Why would I need to do that? My 125 can cruise at 120mph, after all.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lol OP too poor to afford a garage.
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