Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Ignition is sticking, steering lock stuck on

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

MedicalBiker
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 03 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:08 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Ignition is sticking, steering lock stuck on Reply with quote

I've found the issue is worse when it's cold/wet but sometimes my key won't turn in the ignition, and I'm stuck for 5 mins trying to get the steering lock off.

Guy at the garage suggested some WD40 down the slot, other things I've read have included heating the key. Does anybody have any other idea? I've currently got the WD40 sitting in the lock.

The key does turn eventually with a lot of removal and reinsertion and jiggling of the handle bars but it's a major PITA
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:13 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a Suzuki or Yamaha? Both of those for me have needed a serious wiggle wiggle.

Get some graphite and rub over the key.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

MedicalBiker
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 03 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:52 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the 3rd option, a Honda.

Is that to dislodge anything that could be in the barrel? Any ideas on where I could purchase some?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:53 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: Ignition is sticking, steering lock stuck on Reply with quote

MedicalBiker wrote:
Guy at the garage suggested some WD40 down the slot

Oh dear.

WD-40 is a solvent and some very light oil. It does disperse water, it does dissolve grease and crud, but any residual lubrication is minimal.

For locks I go graphite powder (eBay, I have some left over from using it to "lube" the belt drive on my 305), or in extremis, if it seems like it's just not engaging with the pins, I've had luck with packing grease in.

What sort of grease is a whole other bun-fight.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:56 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This the one that blew over? Was the steering lock on when it blew over?

Could have bent the lock pin or damaged the hole in the yoke the pin goes into. In which case it might need taking apart and fixing or a new lock.

Don't put graphite in ignition locks. I used to too but it can get into the switchgear and is conductive.

Use silicone spray to lubricate an ignition lock.
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MedicalBiker
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 03 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:10 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same bike yes, although this was a problem before the fall too. Just thought seeing as I'm about to get a tool set and torque wrench I may as well go about doing all the DIY I can whilst I'm off.

I have some silicone lube that came with my Arai helmet, is that as effective as silicone spray?

Bought the new indicator today so will try and fit that tomorrow once i've picked up https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-professional-torque-wrench-8-60nm

and

https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/socket-sets/halfords-advanced-professional-170-piece-socket-ratchet-spanner-set
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:16 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: Ignition is sticking, steering lock stuck on Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


For locks I go graphite powder



Or do what I do and scribble over it with a pencil Laughing
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mudcow007
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:32 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stanley knife (other knives are available) an scrape the life outta a pencil

That will give you loadsa graphite dust?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

DrSnoosnoo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:47 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
stanley knife (other knives are available) an scrape the life outta a pencil

That will give you loadsa graphite dust?


If you're lucky, you'll make some mega expensive graphene too, so don't waste it!
____________________
I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
Did have: '95 ZZR600 '83 CG125 '97 ZZR1100 '15 Hypermotard 821 SP Do Have: '10 ZX10R
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Wonko The Sane
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 Jan 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:55 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My kawasaki can be a bit temperamental with the steering lock,

not pushing the key in while doing it is the trick for me as it's possible to push it too far into the lock.

GT85 helps
____________________
Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
They're also on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Focus-Rider-Training/196832923734251
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MedicalBiker
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 03 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:12 - 10 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
My kawasaki can be a bit temperamental with the steering lock,

not pushing the key in while doing it is the trick for me as it's possible to push it too far into the lock.

GT85 helps


I've found that with mine too, but then to disengage the steering lock I have to push and twist so...it's a bit of a murky ground I think. Just leave's me up s**t creek without a paddle
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:36 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we're clear, a steering lock will hold up a bike thief for perhaps four seconds, or if they're being super careful as many as 13.

Anybody who wants your bike isn't going to be stopped by a steering lock.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:39 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Exactly why I've not bothered replacing my ignition.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

MedicalBiker
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 03 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the two of you don't use the steering lock at all? Just turn to off and then turn the bars?

I thought about it, also the fact that a broken steering lock will bend and bugger the bars. Haven't brought myself to leave the lock off yet though.

Just as a side bar, I'm struggling to find places on the bike to run the chain through to lock it up at night, I'm doing that pathetic chain through the back wheel. Where on earth on a cbf can I lock the wheel to the frame? The gap under the top box rack is too small
____________________
Currently riding: 2010 Honda CBF 125
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:26 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use the steering lock as an alternative to using literally nothing else. When popping into a shop for a few minutes, for example.

Can you get your chain through the rear footpeg hangar? If not, can you get your lock around both that and the chain? I use a huge shackle lock on the Beemer and can actually get it round a chassis tube with enough room to slip a 13mm 16mm chain loop on it as well.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike


Last edited by Rogerborg on 13:29 - 11 Feb 2016; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:33 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MedicalBiker wrote:
So the two of you don't use the steering lock at all? Just turn to off and then turn the bars?


I do not use it. in fact, the mechanism no longer exists on my bike.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CaNsA
Super Spammer



Joined: 02 Jan 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:13 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicone spray.

Flood the ignition with it.

Enjoy a simple life.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stirlinggaz
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:36 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i use the steeing lock all the time, not because i think it would stop any potential thief, but because its 1 of the 1st questions asked by insurance co.'s when a bike is stolen.... i'd hate to think what their response would be if the answer to that question waS "nope, steering lock not used cos cba'd"....

on a side note, that torque wrench looks nice (i like tools..ooh er..) & i'd be interested in any reviews.

cheers,
GAZ
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:07 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
hi,
i use the steeing lock all the time, not because i think it would stop any potential thief, but because its 1 of the 1st questions asked by insurance co.'s when a bike is stolen.... i'd hate to think what their response would be if the answer to that question waS "nope, steering lock not used cos cba'd"....

on a side note, that torque wrench looks nice (i like tools..ooh er..) & i'd be interested in any reviews.

cheers,
GAZ


How would they know, if they recover it you want it back, if its not recovered then they broke the steering lock m8.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:13 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
its 1 of the 1st questions asked by insurance co.'s when a bike is stolen....

Can't think why it would be, if it's not (channels arry) a condition precedent to insurance.

And "absolutely, my dear sir, I am positive that it was," would always be my answer.

The bike needs to be found before they can argue the toss, at which point they've got no need to argue the toss.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stirlinggaz
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:43 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe im just too honest....(or a wummin) & as much as i hate the insurace cartel, dishonesty is 1 of the reasons they claim premiums keep increasing, so why contribute to this?

& its DEFINITELY (well certainly was last time i looked) a clause in my carole nash fc policy where it states the steering lock MUST be engaged (in the event of a theft claim) or a further excess of £500 will apply on top of any voluntary excess (£250) AND compulsory excess (£100).
that would be 850 quid lost cos i couldnt cba'd to engage the steering lock & decided to be honest.
f*ck that!

cheers,
GAZ
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:50 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem with insurance is they rinse the max out of you and offer a basic bit of paper back that you may or may not claim on each year, its one massive bucket of cash.

I'd rather get the most out of them for the smallest amount, all insurance companies want is money.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CBFcarl
Nearly there...



Joined: 29 Oct 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:25 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MedicalBiker wrote:
....on a cbf


I have the same issue with my CBF. I had always put it down to the fact that I leave the bike outside at night, or thought that some scrote had tried to steal the bike and damaged it.

I have used WD40 in the past, but someone recommended dry lube (normally used for the chain on my mountain bike). Haven't had an issue since.
____________________
thx1138 wrote: Well if you had a car, I'd bet it would smell like urine had had drunken sex with vomit and made a poo baby.
Polarbear wrote: They are all old now. Probably had more abuse that a Rotherham schoolgirl.
Hellkat wrote: I want to know if Nigella smells of garlic, or just minge.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stinkwheel
Bovine Proctologist



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:00 - 11 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had (including ones that were stolen more than once) 8 bikes stolen.

Got 6 of the bikes back. 5 had broken ignition locks.

I leave the keys in them in my garage so if it's stolen and turns up again, I don't have to replace switchgear/handlebars/ignition locks.

Claimed for one of them. Wish I hadn't. Felt like being robbed a second time.
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 10 years, 41 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.08 Sec - Server Load: 1.3 - MySQL Queries: 14 - Page Size: 124.23 Kb