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Posted: 14:28 - 14 Feb 2016 Post subject: 125ccm motorbike for long-travel journey |
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Hey guys!
I have 21 now and I'm riding on a motorbike from 15. Last years I rode just on scooter or something like that. Nothing cool.
But now I want to buy a new (but can be older, of course) motorbike. My goal is long travelling. Like trips around Europe, across USA etc. Travelling is my big passion and now I want to travel with 125ccm buddy. And yes, I know is it hard to travel with 125ccm bike, but you know, why not?
I'm looking for something like Yamaha WR125R, but new one is pretty expensive. Do you know about some alternatives which I can buy older, than go to the shop, do GO of the power and the price will be still attractive and motorbike cool for the journey what I need?
I'm looking also about something what is popular on the whole word. I mean, if the bike will be broken on the another side of continent, there will be not big problem to solve that.
Thanks a lot for your tips and ideas!
And sorry for my English.
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If you're wanting to be able to repair it in the back of beyond you need a Honda CG or similar as they've been used and copied around the world so parts are easy to come by and they're simple machines.
even better would be a Honda C90, but that's a smaller bike again. There's a chap on youtube who's done C90 euro tours ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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These couple of crazy Argentinians decided n an epic 'Round-The-World' expedition, on a Pair of Yamaha YBR125's.
https://www.re-moto.com/index.php?lang=eng
A 125cc motorcycle is not such a daft idea for such a excursion, they have enough power to achieve around 60-70mph, which is as fast as most traffic goes in most countries; while they are economical and cheap and easy to maintain, and so offer lots and lots more miles for your money.. which if you are on a two or three year holiday, trying to do lots and lots of miles, rather than go a few miles to and from where you earn money, is probably quite helpful!
Small bikes can be a bit cramped, though, and so ot be as comfy for long hours in the saddle... and dirt styled ones or sports styled ones, are likely to be even less comfy for longer periods.
Which puts that Yamaha YBR right at the top of the list of contenders, and as its bee shown one-one has gone round the world on one, and they have had the durability to do it, and the support to keep them moving etc, IF this is really the sort of thing you really want to do... it would be difficult to argue strongly against one. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Andy_Pagin wrote: | Lol your English is better than a LOT of British members here.
Any European specification Yamaha is a good choice, they're reliable and parts are easy to come by.
I wouldn't worry about a broken WR125, I would worry about a stolen WR125. Thieves like that sort of bike. A YBR125 may look uncool, but it's less likely to be taken.
If you come over to the UK be sure to let us know, I'm sure some BCF'ers would like to meet you. |
Hehe, thank you man!
Yeah Yamaha YBR is very popular for the travelling, but I don't like the style of the motorbike. The WR looks more "cool" for me. (maybe because I had one KTM motocross at my 15) But yes, I understand, it will less attractive for the guys which will be want to stole the motorbike.
Teflon-Mike wrote: | These couple of crazy Argentinians decided n an epic 'Round-The-World' expedition, on a Pair of Yamaha YBR125's.
https://www.re-moto.com/index.php?lang=eng
A 125cc motorcycle is not such a daft idea for such a excursion, they have enough power to achieve around 60-70mph, which is as fast as most traffic goes in most countries; while they are economical and cheap and easy to maintain, and so offer lots and lots more miles for your money.. which if you are on a two or three year holiday, trying to do lots and lots of miles, rather than go a few miles to and from where you earn money, is probably quite helpful!
Small bikes can be a bit cramped, though, and so ot be as comfy for long hours in the saddle... and dirt styled ones or sports styled ones, are likely to be even less comfy for longer periods.
Which puts that Yamaha YBR right at the top of the list of contenders, and as its bee shown one-one has gone round the world on one, and they have had the durability to do it, and the support to keep them moving etc, IF this is really the sort of thing you really want to do... it would be difficult to argue strongly against one. |
Hehe, thanks man! I know these guys! I did some research about people which travel around world on a bike. Check this guy, he did the trip alone on the same bike as well. https://www.talesfromthesaddle.com/
Then he bought Honda XR125 and he wrote is it better bike, but support from the Honda is so cool like Yamaha. So I don't know what I need to do now. One way is also buy older (they not selling new XR125 at Czech Republic) XR125, at official Honda repair shop do the general GO of the power etc. and go around the world. But.. The support from the company can be really important thing on the way around a world.
And yes, I want to be years on the way around a world. I'm currently in Asia (by plane) but the adventure by motorbike sounds really like a challenge and cool thing for me.
EDIT: I also like the style of Honda Varadero 125, but is like with the XR125, I need to buy older, repair everything and then go away on the trip. But how is it with the support of this bike in the world? Thanks! |
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Guys, another cool guy: https://thelifeofwen.com/
The Honda Varadero looks really interesting. The power is really strong from all reviews which I found. It looks also like a comfortable bike. But one problem is, they are no selling new bikes in my country.
I found one with facelift and 18K kilometres. But how much cost complete review and GO of the power for this bike?
I want be sure the bike is really good if I will go around the world.
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I would have happily taken mine across Europe.
Tubeless tyres so puncture repair kits, big enough, can cruise at 70mph, 18k isn't too much, mine had 77,000 miles so 123900km on the clock. Was still fine. |
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In fairness, an older, aircooled honda 125 single is probably the thing to go for. They are very common all over the world.
What is even more common worldwide is the Honda 110cc engine. It isn't as popular in Europe and the USA but it is used pretty much everywhere else.
Mind you. If I lived in the Czech republic, I'd have a look about and see if I could find an old 70's MZ125 and refurbish it. If I could find an old ISDT model, so much the better. For £1000 you could practically rebuild the whole thing. New crank seals, a fresh piston, upgrade the clutch and fit a powerdyno conversion.
In this day and age, getting spares isn't a major problem. Unless you're going somewhere WAY out of the way, you can have stuff shipped to you. It's not THAT often you need a major spare part.
I'd be going for something which will run well on poor quality fuel sold at the side of the road out of a plastic bottle and strained through a rag to get the dust out, that can cope with low quality engine oil and that is easy to get the wheels out of and repair a puncture (and takes a commonly available tyre size). ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Pepi1967 wrote: | vlastimilfiser wrote: | How much kilometres is the maximum for engines of YBR125 or CBF125?
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That would depend on how well the engine has been maintained I would think. |
Yeah I know, but I'm little bit scary to buy some old bike, because I don't understand of the problems (inside engine etc.) a lot. So, I'm thinking about to buy some new CBF125 or YBR125. Is more than 1K GBP, but still awesome reviews on this engines and motorbikes completely.
But the style of XL125 or Varadero 125 is really awesome, I like how the bikes looks, it's like "adult bike". All the bikes which I found (XL125 for example) has more than 20K on the tachometer. Varadero's has more than 30K usually.
I don't know how much cost the GO of engine for these bikes and if I need it necessary.
Pepi1967 wrote: | In fairness, an older, aircooled honda 125 single is probably the thing to go for. They are very common all over the world.
What is even more common worldwide is the Honda 110cc engine. It isn't as popular in Europe and the USA but it is used pretty much everywhere else.
Mind you. If I lived in the Czech republic, I'd have a look about and see if I could find an old 70's MZ125 and refurbish it. If I could find an old ISDT model, so much the better. For £1000 you could practically rebuild the whole thing. New crank seals, a fresh piston, upgrade the clutch and fit a powerdyno conversion.
In this day and age, getting spares isn't a major problem. Unless you're going somewhere WAY out of the way, you can have stuff shipped to you. It's not THAT often you need a major spare part.
I'd be going for something which will run well on poor quality fuel sold at the side of the road out of a plastic bottle and strained through a rag to get the dust out, that can cope with low quality engine oil and that is easy to get the wheels out of and repair a puncture (and takes a commonly available tyre size). |
Thank you! Which one 125's you can recommend me?
I think, the MZ125 is not the right for me. I don't know how the elements works a lot. So, if there will be some issue I will find someone who can help me. But yes, Czech bikes from the older years are with really good quality. But I'm looking about some "mainstream". Honda looks good (I'm currently in Asia and I have been here for a long time, so I know here is no problem to find some Honda repair shop etc. everyone have Honda's here) from this side. Now is question if buy new CBF125/Yamaha YBR125 or take more beautiful and more travel bike like Varadero, older and go to Honda repair shop and do some review. But if the GO of engine is expensive I think my budget is not optimal for that. I don't know.
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I unashamedly like Hondas for reliability.
A varadero would be great for travelling. Especially if you're on road trips. That's the option for a bike that shouldn't break down anyway. It does however have a more complex engine so if it does have a problem, you'd be less likely to be able to fix it.
The other option would be a carbed XR125 which would cope well with offroad stuff, light enough to pick up and a pretty common, simple engine.
Shame you're not in Australia. You could have gone for a postie bike (CT110) which have a proven world touring heritage. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I'd be more concerned about condition than mileage. I personally would rather ride a varadero than a YBR across Europe or around the USA.
If I was going into poorer countries with the intention of riding off road, so say touring South America or round the far East, I would want something in a low state of tune and with a carburettor.
Bear in mind however, that I have chosen to ride an Indian made Royal Enfield (Designed in the 1950's, made on worn out 1950's machinery and with a similar power output to a 125) when I have the option of many other motorcycles. So my advice should be take with that in mind.
I'd ride an Enfield round the world and expect to make it there with only minimal mechanical issues. I'd be less confident of making it on a modern adventure bike. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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