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LustyLew
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Removing an en suite Reply with quote

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So I've found flat I really like, here.

Going for a second viewing tomorrow morning in better light.

I'm torn. The 'master' bedroom has an en-suite bathroom. It's huge! I mean, disproportionately big. so much so, once there's a double bed in the room, you'd be hard pressed to fit a set of drawers in there, never mind a wardrobe of any kind.

My plan would be to remove the en-suite and upgrade the bathroom (next door) with a much nicer suite with decent shower over head. I could then reclaim some room in the master bedroom and have a good sized built in wardrobe. So, it's a two bed flat so hardly 'family home'. But am I insane? I'm not really planning on taking in a lodger as it's for my o/h and I to live in.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're knocking walls out and changing suites, I'd be more tempted to remove the cupboard near the front door and shift the two bathrooms back, making a bigger master. Lot of work though.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it.

I've never understood the appeal of an en-suite. Who wants to hear their beloved's grunts, farts and splashes? Or have them hear yours? Puts me right off.

Also it's hardly a long way to the other bathroom in a flat, is it?

It's a good idea of yours to take it out. You won't lose value IMO if you make the bedroom larger with built-in storage.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
If you're knocking walls out and changing suites, I'd be more tempted to remove the cupboard near the front door and shift the two bathrooms back, making a bigger master. Lot of work though.


That's not a bad idea, but the toilet is in an awkward place and would mean an extension into the soil stack to move, so boxing in etc.

The properties are close to the ceiling for the area so no real point spending mega bucks if it's not really going to increase the value.

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PostPosted: 18:06 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Who wants to hear their beloved's grunts, farts and splashes? Or have them hear yours?

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PostPosted: 23:36 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two hundred.............. AAAAND twenty

THOUSAND????!??!

For a 2 bed flat? You Londoners are fukkin mental!

I was going say that's quite a bit of work for a flat but if its valued at that then maybe not too bad. Although you may dent the value if you remove the en suite.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's only for you why not make second bedroom into a dressing room and have a nice clean bedroom with no clutter
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Do it.

I've never understood the appeal of an en-suite.


Having three small children and now living in a house with an en-suite I can say they are awesome. No longer when I get up for a shower before work do I have navigate the mountain of small bath toys. Nor do I accidentally find myself grabbing the Matey bubblebath instead of my conditioner. I can go in there anytime and my beard clipper and electric toothbrush are never floating in the bowl. The sink is never flooded. The floor never spattered with the failed attempts of a recently toilet trained toddler.

It's bliss. It's like my own little palace of cleanliness. The flip side is that the "family bathroom" has become this sinister room of mystery now. The realm of grubby little boys who are clearly closely related to marine mammals such as the killer whale, given how they rise elegantly out of the water, to only then bodyslam the contents of the bath all around the room. I never go in there. I simply walk past and shut the door to the horrors within, working on the presumption that my wife will clean it all at some point.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 bed flats round our way go for 230-250. With an en-suite they're more like 250-280. 300 for a great one.

This may be because those with en-suites are in newer, more desirable developments, rather than just the existence of the room itself.

I'd echo Poseidon on how nice en-suites are to have. There are only two of us rattling around in our house normally but it's great when we have guests to be able to give them exclusive use of a bathroom.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing it will knock a good 10k off the flat. Especially if all the other flats still have theirs and esp at South East
prices, my sister still lives quite close to that flat. The point about guests is a good one, my pals live in London
so we regularly have weekend house guests, even just having a second toilet is a godsend when we have visitors.
My house rules are boys shit downstairs in the cloakroom and girls shit upstairs in the bathroom Laughing

I'd love an en suite in my bedroom, but this house can't really accommodate one. I can convert the
downstairs cloakroom into a downstairs shower and toilet if I move a couple of walls, aiming to start on that next year.
And of course it will add value to my home. And that's never a bad thing.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing... My last house had just the one bathroom which, in that one, meant just the one toilet. It was always at the back of my mind that if it ever broke or blocked, I'd be crapping in the garden for a while. Redundancy in essential services is nice.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Do it.

I've never understood the appeal of an en-suite. Who wants to hear their beloved's grunts, farts and splashes? Or have them hear yours? Puts me right off.

Also it's hardly a long way to the other bathroom in a flat, is it?

It's a good idea of yours to take it out. You won't lose value IMO if you make the bedroom larger with built-in storage.


There seems to be a trend for an increasing number of shitters in a house. No longer is 2 enough, but tri-shitter is now common place, and quadrashitters are installed in some new houses.

Who needs to many rooms dedicated to crimping out a length
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:30 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

that nice feeling when you live in the grim north Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:48 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing the bathroom stuff and capping off the pipes is fairly easy if you want to turn the bathroom into a cupboard. Moving the wall could be tricky, you'd need a builder to tell you.

It would knock off some value, but you only care about the value when buying or selling - the rest of the time you want somewhere nice to live.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if your en-suite is a dedicated separate room, it's worth saving.


If your en-suite is this modern approach to just cornering off part of your normal bedroom, it's worth loosing.

I've seen shitters put behind fitted wardrobes when house hunting..... bad times .....
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ensuites are increasingly popular which means you'll spend money and time removing value from your flat. In this respect, don't do it. I agree that the design of the flat could be better, but the cost involved in changing it around is unlikely to be returned - I'm assuming this isn't your forever home.
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:


Yep; paid the same for my 4 double bedroom, double garage, space for 5 cars house down a quiet cul-de-sac with open country views and I'm still only an hour from Kings Cross on the train!

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PostPosted: 12:10 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:

There seems to be a trend for an increasing number of shitters in a house. No longer is 2 enough, but tri-shitter is now common place, and quadrashitters are installed in some new houses.

Who needs to many rooms dedicated to crimping out a length


Ah remember when ah were a lad (in the 70s!), the loo was outside. Need to go in the night, then it's wandering outside in your jimjams and wellies (in winter when there were snow on't ground). My parents still live in that house, it now has 3 loos (down from a peak of 4!). Our house has three too; it does mean that we can ignore the biohazard that is the kid's bathroom.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice!

I went and viewed the property again on Saturday in daylight. Also spotted the floor in the kitchen would need replacing and three of the windows didn't close properly, leaving 1" caps with the wind whistling through them!

Nothing major, but just lots of little jobs to do.

I did look at moving the family bathroom a long a bit and thus making the room to keep en suite, but it's just not worth it. It's going to be over £10k for work (I'm not a keen DIYer), I couldn't confidently say I'd recoup that in the time I'd want to live there.

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PostPosted: 15:17 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
CHR15 wrote:


Yep; paid the same for my 4 double bedroom, double garage, space for 5 cars house down a quiet cul-de-sac with open country views and I'm still only an hour from Kings Cross on the train!

London Laughing


Jesus, that cottage Chris posted is lovely other than the garden space.

Quite frankly I have absolutely no desire to be moving out into ridiculously priced houses / flats; which it all is near to me. If I ever move out it will be closer to the coast, further north, or abroad.. Laughing

I see some of my colleagues crippling themselves with mortgages for terraced houses.. Sick

What's it like for getting jobs up north? Laughing

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PostPosted: 15:52 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://media.rightmove.co.uk/8k/7423/55593284/7423_4912_FLP_01_0000_max_600x600.jpg

Is a whacking great en suite, could you make it just a bog room, so half the size?
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